That's a stinking plateu which we now have under siege.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Posted on 10/05/2010 3:08:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
No, just calling him out for what he is doesn’t mean he should be tossed out. Just call a spade a spade. Steve Lonegan was the “conservative who couldn’t win” in the GOP primary, Christie the “moderate”. There is some good , some bad. With Corzine it was all bad.
Not in this day and age.
That's a stinking plateu which we now have under siege.
Just keep jumping up and down, rightwingextremist.
Gov. Christie tells it like it is.
He is the real deal ... possibly the ONLY politician on the planet who speaks the truth 100% of the time.
Sorry if your radical template is not matched exactly.
my question is this..... why should Christie fight that battle? many other states are involved in lawsuit that will inevitably go to the scotus. there, obamacare will be declared unconstitutional and it will go away. or the new republican congress will repeal it. christie is slugging away at the big labor unions that have nearly destroyed NJ and he is making progress. why stop that momentum by opposing something that many voters in his deep blue state support when it will ultimately be deleted from law by the federal level?
He is also shakey on second amendment issues (Especially CCW) so even though he’s a darn sight better than the alternative he’s not a 100% conservative to me.
I'm glad the word is getting out......but I hear rumblings that CC will be the RINO alternative if Romney falters against SP......but her recent alliance with Steele may have co-opted her left flank.....Christy is a tough talking RINO who sounds conservative but he is not delivering the goods....He is in office to SAVE the welfare state, not END it...plus he is pro-illegal immigration....... but thanks for the ping !!
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I like Christie quite a bit. He’s far and away better than Corzine and the best thing to hit New Jersey politics in a long, long time. I think we could use a couple hundred more guys (and gals) in politics with the stones Chris Christie has.
That said, I’ve held few illusions about his stances on some issues. Aside from his position on health care reform, he’s not a hardliner on immigration, and he’s very status quo with the stringent NJ gun control laws.
Does that make him a RINO? I don’t happen to think so. I see him as a pragmatic, NE Republican governing in a very blue state. I think there’s room at the table for a guy like that. Like Rudy Giuliani, Christie would be a tremendous asset to any administration in the right role. I’d make him my OMB Director in a heartbeat, for example. I just don’t personally think he (or Rudy G, for that matter) is the guy to run at the top of a presidential ticket.
All just MHO, of course.
There are a lot of people who simply do not want to hear that. They want political purity on ever issue and will throw someone under the bus the minute they compromise or choose not to fight on some particular front.
“There are a lot of people who simply do not want to hear that. They want political purity on ever issue and will throw someone under the bus the minute they compromise or choose not to fight on some particular front.”
Exactly. I am not a slave to the Tea Party any more than I am a slave to the Establishment Pubs, but but one has to make room for both in the Republican Party which is the only current vehicle we have to accomplish our conservative ends. I don’t like the Libertarian part of the Tea Party movement because I am not a Libertarian. Therefore, should I not espouse the rest of the ideals of the Tea Party movement? Well I do, minus the libertarian bent of many Tea Partiers. There is lots of room for Christie in the Pub Party (he needs lots of room), as his fiscal policies are dead on, in fact most of his policies are good ones. You just can’t keep dumping people over if they don’t think EXACTLY like you do. It will be the death knell for our side winning any election if we go as hardcore as the crazy leftists. Think, you purists, think of the damage you yourselves can be doing to our attempts to restore sanity to our government.
The first time was the Revolutionary War period. The purity test then was "Independence". After the shooting started anyone who called for compromise with the British was considered an enemy. Their property was confiscated, they were sometimes tar and feathered, and in some cases killed as loyalists.
The other was the Civil War period.....then the purity test was "Union". Each side punished with death anyone who disagreed with that litmus test.
I don't know what the word will be this time.....but one is coming. There can never be a peaceful compromise between men who believe in constitutional limitations on federal power and those who believe the constitution is a living document and can be interpreted according to modern standards. A final clash is enevitable. You see the hardening of positions everyday. Neither side wants to compromise because each side belives the other side is wrong AND EVIL
Just like during the Revolution and the Civil War, everybody will have to chose a side.
Don’t you know 80% is fringe? LOL!
See my post 34. It was also supposed to be addressed to you also. Sorry.
Steve Lonegan and his hard-core fans react to the fact that the "RINO" who beat them in the primary is now a national conservative icon:
No, he's not perfect, but it's clear the die-hard Lonegan followers are going to accuse the guy of being a "Giuliani/Whitman type RINO" regardless of what he does. They're STILL actively spreading a whisper campaign on FR that "Christie is pro-abortion and not a social conservaive in any way", even after he's proudly publicly said he's pro-life a million times AND single-handily shut down NJ Planned Parenthood. You can't honestly say the "Christie is pro-abortion" crowd is still "accidentially" portraying him as pro-abortion because they don't know the facts. Christie has proven he's a social conservative on 80% of the issues on numerous occassions. They just choose to ignore it and lie about him because his actual positions don't fit their tired "Whitman/Giuliani RINO" sterotype they've been slinging since the primary.
The jury' still out on whether Christie is presidential material, and his position on guns and immigration need improvement, but the verdict is in on 4-time loser Steve Lonegan: He is a bitter, vicious loser and in hindsight Christie is 10X the leader Lonegan is.
I'd gladly take Christie over real RINOs abortion loving, Obama-suckup socialists like Ahnuld or Crist. Hell, I'd even take him over "conservatives" like McDonnell. We need more GOP governors with balls.
I heart you!
I agree entirely with everything you say here. People simply have to understand that politics as we know it have not changed for much of the population of this nation. Much, perhaps most, of the American public is still sympathetic to the social welfare state. We will not be able to reverse this trend over night. Our fights must be within the confines of the Republican party, and we really need to nominate the most conservative candidate that CAN actually win. This will mean that sometimes political purity must be sacrificed with the bigger picture in mind.
You do make an interesting point here. I presume you are asserting we are entering something of a pre-revolutionary period. I agree, this is possible, but I am not by any means sold on it. As of now, most of the zeal for change is really only on the right. Yes, much of the public is angry or disappointed, but there just isn't any real evidence they have turned against the social welfare state. Far too many conservatives spend a bit too much time in the "echo chamber" and overestimate the power of the energized right/Tea Party, and badly underestimate, quite frankly, how far gone much of the American public really is. Perhaps a majority now are wedded to big government and it will be a long process turning this around in my opinion. You'd be right if the entire system as we know it is about to collapse, but I really don't see that in the cards. Then again, who knows...
Great post!
Christie is simply awesome so far. Nominating candidates is not as simple as just going through a check list trying to find political purity. Someone like Christie has the ability to actually lead, actually get things done, actually push back against the left/unions. Christie may not be perfect on every issue, but he was the right nominee and has emerged as a very bright light for the conservative/Republican movement!
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