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Will Sarah Palin get a second chance at the presidency?
Helium ^ | August 3, 2020 | Felix Jaure

Posted on 08/02/2010 8:51:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 9YearLurker

I did misinterpret your analogy before.

Unfortunately, I really don’t see many parallels between Reagan in ‘76 and Palin in ‘08. Reagan was already an important national figure in his own right in ‘76 and came close to being the Republican nominee. Palin wasn’t even a candidate in 2008, and most people had never heard of Palin until she was selected as McCain’s running mate.


101 posted on 08/04/2010 11:20:04 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: The Pack Knight

They were both loser laughingstocks. Seen as ignorant lightweights by the smug, winning other team and national media. Perceived to be fringe extremists even though they shared most positions with a majority of Americans.

And, of course, they may both end up having been the beneficiary of inept an out-of-the-mainstream Democrat presidents who were weak on foreign policy and who presided over bad-to-worse economies.


102 posted on 08/04/2010 11:26:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: ansel12

She is well positioned to be a serious contender for the Republican nomination, should she choose to pursue it. It’s hard to say what her chances will be until we know who the other candidates will be, however.

However, I was referring more to her chances of actually being elected President, which I think are slim the way things stand now. She’ll have to win over a lot of swing-voters who already don’t like her. She is one of the few potential Republican nominees who would have that disadvantage, and it isn’t because she is “too conservative”.


103 posted on 08/04/2010 11:43:37 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: jveritas

If McCain can win, anyone can. But I think Palin has some pretty high hurdles to get over to do so.


104 posted on 08/04/2010 2:29:44 PM PDT by Bob J (Will all my comments be censored?)
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To: allmendream

Ardent Palin supporters seem to have a big blindspot when it comes to her and this post is a good example.

I won’t go into details, I’ve done that over and over for a long time and supporters refuse to admit the potholes in Palin’s road to the Whitehouse.

But Palin’s opponents, GOP, dem and the media, will pound them and running back to FR to post rationalizations and spin will do no good.


105 posted on 08/04/2010 2:29:56 PM PDT by Bob J (Will all my comments be censored?)
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To: Bob J
Please detail the “blindspot” evident in my post.

No, will not go into details?

Do you wish to deny that she is currently a political tour de force? Or just piss and moan that she isn't serving out her tour in Juno?

Do you wish to deny that she generates more enthusiasm among people coast to coast than any other voice on the right? You certainly declined to NAME anyone who is her equal in the “charisma” department.

If the defining characteristic of your favored candidate is someone who their GOP opponents, the Dem and the media will not “pound” - that person doesn't exist without a (D) next to their name. Is that the characteristic of your favored candidate?

106 posted on 08/04/2010 2:41:36 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Bob J
her “charisma” is restricted to a minority group of conservatives and pubs.

That is nonsensical, the media, Obama and the left has been reacting to her Charisma for two years. Charisma and effective governance helped her become the most popular elected official in America.

Governor Palin has Charisma that is dominating American politics and media, not some directional Charisma that is only being responded to by a "minority group of conservatives and pubs". You really need to try harder to be more realistic and let's say, "accurate".

Without Charisma, Palin would not be surviving the worst media onslaught ever unleashed by the American media.

107 posted on 08/04/2010 3:04:08 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: The Pack Knight

Right now I’m tracking who is the most conservative candidate that can win the Republican party nomination, I’m not really interested in self destructing by trying to anticipate liberal reaction to that, and surrendering in advance of the primary.

To try to defeat the conservative favorite, and front runner in OUR OWN PRIMARY to replace her with one of these?
Another Ford, HW Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain, or a Mitt Romney? No thanks.


108 posted on 08/04/2010 3:20:07 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

Why do you assume that our choice is going to be either Palin or a moderate when we don’t even know yet who is going to be running? Just to name a couple, Haley Barbour and Bobby Jindal look like they could be good conservative alternatives who are both probably more electable than Palin.

Also, it is not at all clear that Palin is the front runner. Aside from Tea Party straw polls, I’ve yet to see any scientific poll of Republican voters that shows her in the lead either nationwide or in any of the early primary states. Perhaps I’m missing a poll somewhere, but most of them seem to have Romney, Gingrich or Huckabee as front runners.

Not to mention, if history is any guide, “front runner” status more than a year before the Iowa caucus is largely meaningless. I think I’ll wait until we’ve seen a debate or two before I make any judgments on which conservatives can win the nomination and which can’t.


109 posted on 08/04/2010 5:53:33 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: The Pack Knight

Why assume? You don’t see me bashing Jindle and Barbour or working against them in any way, but here you are working against Palin.

Don’t ask me, ask yourself why you are working to take out Palin.


110 posted on 08/04/2010 5:59:31 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: ansel12

If I’m “working to take out Palin”, then I’m not working very hard.

I make no secret of the fact that I am mightily unimpressed with Palin as a potential Presidential candidate and that I think it would be a big mistake for the Republican Party to nominate her. I think we’ll have a huge opportunity to make Obama a one-term President in 2012, and I think we’d be pissing that opportunity away by nominating one of the few Republicans who cannot beat him.

What’s more, I don’t think we have to compromise on our ideals in order to nominate someone who can beat Obama. I also don’t think we have to compromise on our ideals in order to nominate someone more qualified to serve as President than Sarah Palin.

I don’t plan on keeping those opinions to myself, regardless of how unpopular they may be. If that’s all it takes to “take out Palin”, then her campaign is doomed anyway.


111 posted on 08/04/2010 6:36:18 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: The Pack Knight

LOL, You do that and conservatives will continue to support their favorite, Governor Palin.


112 posted on 08/04/2010 7:07:13 PM PDT by ansel12 (Mitt: "I was an independent during the time of Reagan-Bush. I'm not trying to return to Reagan-Bush")
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To: TiaS

The entry TiaS to Second Division vet is incorrect. My “yes” response was directed to another article entirely. In checking out the person who entered the article — behold, I find my tax dollars hard at work, recruiting men of high integrity and protecting my first amendment rights. What is it they say, LOL.


113 posted on 08/05/2010 10:23:49 AM PDT by TiaS
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