That is a heck of a lot better than you did. You totally dodged my question, and veered off on a tangent with a made up distraction.
And..Umm..the other poll I posted said Sarah Palin has a much higher favorability rating than any other potential GOP candidate for 2012:
Sarah Rising [76% of Republicans find her favorable] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2554518/posts
“Asking why people think a candidate can win is trolling to you. Wow”
Refusing to accept all perfectly reasonable answers given to your question, and ridiculing any answers given to you, only for you to to come back and continue to make the same demands, IS trolling.
“Where did I do that”
Right here:
“odd how you folks are always quoting polls you used to claim are unreliable, but they're suddenly reliable indicators when they go your way. “
“—when I asked “why do you back Palin?” If you think that's a “mindless attack” you need to toughen up, kid”
You demanded to know why Plain can win in 2012, and refused to accept all answers given to you. This is your post # 7: "What I think is that for all the love for Palin, I’m looking for actual evidence that she can win a presidential race" I asked you to tell us why Palin cannot win in 2012. I am yet to hear even one answer from you, let alone a good one. Yet you have continued to ridicule every attempt at answering your question, even while rfeusing to make any attempt to answer question asked you. Figures.
“The whiney victim pose that appears whenever someone asks for FACTS and information about whether or not we can defeat Obama with a candidate is so damned tired and shows a lack of intellectual vigor and honesty, and an excess of emotional attachment where clear thinking is required.”
Plenty of posters in this thread have given you good, very pertinent facts, only for you to dismiss them out of hand. Meanwhile, you are yet to supply even one fact or answer any questions posed to you. You are the one with the emotional problem here.
“This after you just accused me of dodging a question.”
You are STILL dodging the question. As a matter of fact, you are yet to answer any question posed to you at all.
“Is this poll reliable or not, yes or no?”
If anything, there is a pretty good chance chance that this poll is biased AGAINST Sarah Plain, not for her. So if anything, Sarah Plain is probably doing better than in this poll.
Plus I backed it up with the Gallup poll, which has Sarah Plain solidly ahead of any other GOP candidate for 2012, in favourability amongst Republicans.
“So just to be clear, Gallup and PPP polls are reliable in terms of tracking Palin’s popularity according to you”
Just to be clear, PPP is a Democratic Party supporting outfit (they don't even make that a secret do they?). Their polls will if anything, more likely to tilt AGAINST Sarah Palin.
Get it?
All of your postings to me are tangents, and attempts to squirm out of answering a very simple, very pertinent question.
You're so emotional about a simple, important question that should be so easy to answer. And when people ask for evidence that has meaning, you call them trolls.
So why do you keep responding to this "troll" instead of offering the tons of evidence you must have that will answer my very simple question?
Why is that? And..Umm..the other poll I posted said Sarah Palin has a much higher favorability rating than any other potential GOP candidate for 2012: Sarah Rising [76% of Republicans find her favorable] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2554518/posts
Got it the first time. Doesn't impress me anymore than it ever has--you can't seem to respond to the question. I have no doubts about Palin's popularity with Republicans, but this isn't an election against Republicans only, it's also going to be against Obama.
Why can't you understand that?
Refusing to accept all perfectly reasonable answers given to your question, and ridiculing any answers given to you, only for you to to come back and continue to make the same demands, IS trolling.
No, to you not thinking as you do is trolling.
Sorry, but I don't simply take anyone's answers as "proof". Just because YOU think that listing well-known background factoids and polls which are meaningless this far out are indicators of a candidate's potential for success are evidence, I don't have to. Your definition of trolling is that someone has higher standards than old photos of crowds.
“Where did I do that” Right here: “odd how you folks are always quoting polls you used to claim are unreliable, but they're suddenly reliable indicators when they go your way. “
LOL THAT's your big evidence of my bashing people? That I pointed out that people are always quoting polls when they're favorable to their view, and trashing them when they're not? WOW how awful! LOL!
You really need to stop with the victim posing.
You demanded to know
That's the second time you've used this silly characterization of my simple question as my DEMANDING anything. I asked a question--I demand nothing of anyone. Man, stop with the boohoo stuff and stick to the actual points.
,i> why Plain can win in 2012, and refused to accept all answers given to you.
Because the answers don't meet my standard. Sorry if that offends your tender sensibilities, but tough.
This is your post # 7: "What I think is that for all the love for Palin, I’m looking for actual evidence that she can win a presidential race"
Wow, what a trolling question.
I asked you to tell us why Palin cannot win in 2012. I am yet to hear even one answer from you, let alone a good one.
Because you are attempting to derail my simple request for answers of her POSITIVES. YOU are the one who wants to bring up negative comments about her, while I want to read good, solid information and reasons.
So--which of us is the real troll?
Yet you have continued to ridicule every attempt at answering your question, even while rfeusing to make any attempt to answer question asked you. Figures.
Sorry, I won't fall for your silly tactic of derailing my request for positives about Palin. Deal, and stop whining about "ridicule" when that's all you've brought to this thread.
Plenty of posters in this thread have given you good, very pertinent facts, only for you to dismiss them out of hand.
Because they are not good or pertinent in my view. I asked the question, and I get to decide for myself what I find satisfying. Sorry if my not having your low standards offends you so.
Meanwhile, you are yet to supply even one fact or answer any questions posed to you. You are the one with the emotional problem here.
Yet you keep repeating this same point over and over and over again.
And again--sorry, I won't stop asking for positives about Palin's chances and let you turn this into yet another re-iteration of the barriers in Palin's way because you're afraid of serious debate and want another excuse for more boo-hooing and whining and posing.
You are STILL dodging the question. As a matter of fact, you are yet to answer any question posed to you at all.
(Looking at all my answers.) O...kay...
If anything, there is a pretty good chance chance that this poll is biased AGAINST Sarah Plain, not for her.
So you keep quoting as "proof" a biased poll.
And then you ask over and over why I don't trust this as evidence.
So if anything, Sarah Plain is probably doing better than in this poll. Plus I backed it up with the Gallup poll, which has Sarah Plain solidly ahead of any other GOP candidate for 2012, in favourability amongst Republicans.
In other words, you're doing exactly what I said you were doing--quoting polls when they support your view, and dismissing them when they don't.
Any poll that is a bad/biased poll is ALWAYS bad or biased. If this poll is rigged as you say, then gee, wouldn't this result be the perfect one for them to later point to as "proof" of their not being biased--"Hey, look here, she was ahead in our poll, so you can't say we're biased"? And if she falls in this poll, are you going to point to it as suddenly NOT something to look to for evidence?
Just to be clear, PPP is a Democratic Party supporting outfit (they don't even make that a secret do they?). Their polls will if anything, more likely to tilt AGAINST Sarah Palin. Get it?
You most definitely do NOT get it.
But seeing as you keep demanding for reasons why Palin might not win, and are pointing to the PPP poll as evidence of her chances, you're certainly helping out the trolls you supposedly are so, so worried about. ;)