Posted on 11/20/2007 10:25:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Okay, so he supports Hunter. Why doesn’t he come out and say it? If this gentleman is the average Republican voter, then Fred and Hunter would be the top two contenders. But they’re not. Romney and Rudy are. So the average Republican voter is a RINOmm. I bet 70% of all Republicans are actually RINO’s. Which makes Pure Republicans a minority. Maybe the RINO’s should form their own national party. Obiviously the Pure Republicans don’t need RINO support. :-)
Hate to post and run, but it is late here. Good luck in your search.
Sez who? One of three guys will win this: Thompson, Romney, Giuliani. I know which one of the three is the most conservative. Do you?
Hate to post and run, but it is late here. Good luck in your search."
I am not the author of this article, merely the poster of the thread. Feel free to go to that site and communicate with him. I have a candidate, who will hopefully (for all of our sakes) be the next president of these United States.
Very similiar view.
I’d find it extremely hard to vote for Rudy, if not impossible. He’s Hillary but with a slant on some issues.
McCain...if he could only settle on a few issues, then I wouldn’t mind voting for him...as long as he’s got plenty of cool-down medicine near by. Odd temper.
Overall, I support Fred. I see Fred and Hunter as a Jefferson/Adams of our time. They’re differing views are very much needed in this country. The rest of the candidates are just paper weight as far as political philsophy goes. They’re the status quo and in some cases progressive.
I really detest the use of the suffix “bot”.
There is too much of it on FR, and it has demeaning overtones.
I think it says more about the person using the phrase than the people is is directed against.
Everyone ELSE is a mindless “bot”, but never the person using it. Why is that, I wonder?
I see FRed Thompson as the very best candidate, bar none.
He is consistent, concise, Conservative. Just as important, he is reasonable and balanced. He’s not looking to beat anyone into submission on his viewpoints, he’s looking to convince them by act, word, and deed.
He IS the voice of reason and truth that our Country so desperately needs at this time.
For all of those who have posted that they “like FRed, but”, or wantED Fred, but, or “was pullin’ for FRed, but...
Let me ask you...
If your roof had a leak, would you move?
If your kid was failing a course, would you pull ‘em out of school?
If your dog was sick, would you put him down?
If your faith is so weak that you would drop a candidate because he appears to be goin’ through a few bumps, or you can’t understand his strategy, then you have no faith, and, more than likely, no principles, either.
THIS is the election, more so than any election in my 55 years, that we should be standing our ground on Conservative principles, on OUR integrity, on OUR love of Country.
Thanks much!
bOOKmARKfORlATERrEADING (bmflr)
Well said papasmurf. They say “I support Fred but” and then list all the same ol tired MSM anti-Fred talking points, what a pile of crap. Fred ain’t perfect but he is far far far better than Rudy McRomneybee from a conservative point a view.
I concur. 2DV said it very well, “My differences with Fred are degree rather than kind.” Whereas, with all of the others, except Duncan, my differences are huge.
I noticed on another thread a Romney supporter say he doesn’t care that Romney is a liberal RINO. So he just flat out admits Romney is a liberal but he wants him to be President anyway....and there you have it.....the true color of Rominoids, they are unabashed liberals foisting their liberalism on us via the Republican party just like the Rudyphiles.
However, in that light I can understand Rominoids bashing Fred, what I don’t understand is the continued bashing of Fred by Hunter supporters. They are the ones I am really dissppointed in because, in bashing Fred, they are helping ONLY Rudy and Mitt. It is really shameful for them to keep on bashing the only conservative that has a chance.
A perfect example of what you just said is post# 3 above. Amazing.
Don’t these people realize what’s at stake? Do they really believe that myth or rudy, or huck, etc, will serve as Conservatives, will do anything to promote our values. or change public perception of Conservatism?
“Okay, so he supports Hunter. Why doesn’t he come out and say it? If this gentleman is the average Republican voter, then Fred and Hunter would be the top two contenders. But they’re not. Romney and Rudy are. So the average Republican voter is a RINOmm. I bet 70% of all Republicans are actually RINO’s. Which makes Pure Republicans a minority. Maybe the RINO’s should form their own national party. Obiviously the Pure Republicans don’t need RINO support. :-)”
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The silent (moral) majority are conservatives who refuse to vote for moderates.
I recently met Senator Thompson back stage at the NRA convention.
He’s a big guy, very robust and lively, very engaging, and downright funny in person. He worked the room, well, like a movie star. He shook my hand full-on, firmly, looked me in the eye, and asked for my vote, telling me that he was going to earn it.
He told me he would never support amnesty for “illegal alients.” He DID NOT call them “immigrants.”
He told me he would govern in a fiscally responsible manner.
He told my wife that the 2nd amendment was not about hunting but was a check against government power, just like the 1st amendment. “The first thing a dictator does is gather up all the weapons” was in there.
He complained about a diet his advisors have him on because, in their opinion, he was getting fat, and refused to make a jab at Rudy when given an opportunity. (He just laughed.) He gave a good speech, which we all saw.
His positions are about as consistent of a conservative/federalists as we have in this day-and-age. Not perfect, but reasonable, and clearly based on principle.
The fact that Fred works on internal principal is huge to me — I can’t stand fake, say-anything, politians. Indeed, I respect someone like Joe Lieberman (with whom I disagree about basically everything, except the war) much more than the say-anything crowd because it is clear that he has a guiding, internal, principle, and would not govern by polls to get elected.
Fred is the same way, albeit a conservative. What you see is what you get.
Karl Rove recently said, the way to beat Hillary, who has calculated everything in her life to become President, is to elect someone who is genuinely himself. (To paraphrase Karl in Fredspeak, “Son, Hillary doesn’t take a dump without taking a poll.”)
Ergo, our slicker candidates who say-anything will get crushed. The Dims have a friendly media and are much better at controlling their cultivated image.
Fred is genuinely just Fred.
The electorate will see that, and elect Fred as the anti-Hillary.
I understand what you are saying, however, sometimes the label is appropriate.
For example, for people who claim to be conservatives and can take a look at Rudy’s past record and then still think he is a good choice for President or that his recent conversions to conservative positions is any more than pandering.
Now that is what I call a RudyBot.
An examination of your views on the issues reveal that there realistically are only 3 candidates that you can consider -- Fred Thompson, Duncan Hunter, and Tom Tancredo.
The problem with Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo is they have NO chance -- neither are registering 1% in the polls. Also, both just missed the filing deadline in Arkansas -- which tells me that these campaigns are not viable.
I might also add a point about Fred which has impressed me -- and that is support for embattled conservatives. Case in point -- Scooter Libby. At a time when seemingly everyone else in the GOP was rushing to throw Libby under the bus. Fred instead was rushing to his defense. There was nothing for Fred to gain by defending Libby other than the scorn of the msm. Fred also came to Rush's defense -- unlike Mitt, the phony conservative, whose first instinct was to throw Rush under the bus.
But, if Fred fails, I am willing to support Huckabee, Hunter, Tancredo, and maybe even RuPaul.
But I will NOT support Rudy McRomney and will instead vote 3rd party.
I think a large portion of Romney supporters are Mormons. They don't want people to not support him just because he is a Mormon, while they support him just because he is a Mormon. Go figure.
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