[dirtboy]

So, using the logic displayed by many Romney detractors here, I guess that you COULD say that Thompson "flip-flopped" on this issue and is now a "flip-flopper"? No? Can you say double standard?

Spiff, c'mon. Fred did not say the warming we've seen is human-caused, just that some part of it is. That viewpoint is completely compatible with pointing out the sun is causing global warming on other bodies in the solar system. Humans might cause ten percent, the sun ninety percent. His point is, we don't know.

The more critical point was to tie any action by this country to actions by China and India. That kills what is left of Kyoto, and basically means there would be no action, since China and India ain't gonna hamstring their economies.

[Spiff]

Spiff, c'mon. Fred did not say the warming we've seen is human-caused, just that some part of it is. That viewpoint is completely compatible with pointing out the sun is causing global warming on other bodies in the solar system. Humans might cause ten percent, the sun ninety percent. His point is, we don't know.

Who are you defending - Fred or Rudy? All I said is that they both said similar things about human-caused global warming.

[Reagan Man]

"I do. I do believe there's global warming. Yes. And...and I...I think there are...I'm not a scientist all I can do is look at the reports. I think the last one said that...uh...ummm...fir-fir-first of all there's definitely global warming as far as I can tell. I guess the big question has always been how much is it, how much of it is happening because of just natural climate changes and progressions and how much is happening because of human intervention - carbon in particular - and the overwhelming majority of the scientists believe that there's significant human cause that's making it more difficult, making it worse."

~~~ Rudy Giuliani Press Conference, Silicon Valley, Feb 12, 2007

LINK to Video

So Rudy believes the scientific experts, many who are leftwing environmental wackos, that there is "significant human cause" to global warming. Fred didn't say that, nor does he believe that.

Significant means substantial.

Giuliani is agreeing with the liberals like Algore and A.Schwarzy, then to folks like Rush Limbaugh and climate expert Bill Gray, meteorology professor emeritus at Colorado State U. Looks like Rudy is solidly with the liberals, AGAIN!