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Damn ... the "Monday Nite" boredom factor is "really" setting in ... especially when I'm compelled to even post about Ron Paul ... and his intellectually dishonest statements (last week) about the U.S. role in the Middle East.

Yeah ... I guess Moslems (the world over) have EVERY REASON to BLOODY HATE us Americans ...

Let's start with Israel ... oops, wait, we can't start there because "only" United States constraint (i.e. protecting the imbecile Arabs prevented Israel from conquering (permanently) Cairo, Damamcus, Beirut and the quite strategic Suez Canal ... in at least a couple of wars.

So much for "legitimate" Arab anger against the U.S. regarding Israel ...

BUT ... how about Afghanistan ?

Sorry ... it was the United States that helped the Afghans defeat their would-be Soviet conquerers.

So ... it must be BOSNIA ... and how (oops again) the United States stopped Serbia in their "alleged" genocide against the poor, pitiful Moslems.

Ron Paul & Company ... do you get my point ?

Islamics and Moslems HATE US because we don't stone adulterous Women in the streets, enslave and sexually assult little girls by the MILLIONS, placed the Apollo Missions square in the Face of their Moon God ... etc etc ect

Perhaps Ron Paul and Jimmy "The Imbecile" Carter are actually cut from the same idiotic cloth ...

Patton-at-Bastogne

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>> Yeah ... I guess Moslems (the world over) have EVERY REASON to BLOODY HATE us Americans ...

You should listen to what they say. They don't need a reason, they need a focus. The radicals try to focus the hate of their followers on the US. Saudi schools are full of people preaching that we should be destroyed.

I've been to Saudi Arabia multiple times, both before and after the first Gulf War. I felt very much despised by them. It wasn't just some local town elder raising a shit fit with me and then my commander because somebody under me made the mistake of carrying a Bible openly between tents 20 feet apart.

>>Sorry ... it was the United States that helped the Afghans defeat their would-be Soviet conquerers.

If you studied their history, that means nothing to them. The US was simply a tool they used against the Soviets. We didn't endear ourselves to them because we gave them weapons or training.

>>Islamics and Moslems HATE US because we don't stone adulterous Women in the streets, enslave and sexually assult little girls by the MILLIONS, placed the Apollo Missions square in the Face of their Moon God ... etc etc ect

In a way you're agreeing with Ron Paul and to an extent with me - they hate us because of some of what you just said, and our presence in the Middle East reinforces that hatred, because they see that everyday.

That's why their focus has been in the Middle East and not in the US.

Their view is that our presence in the Middle East is much worse than our existence in general. Once they find a way to get us out of the Middle East, then they will eventually come here (once they deal with Israel).

Don't be surprised - if the Democrats pull us out some how, combined with the open borders that Bush and his buddies want, if they come here. It might take them 10 or 20 years - Europe seems more vulnerable at this point, and more immediate, what with the problems in France, Belgium, etc., but they will come at some point.