My Take on The Big Bang

[RadioAstronomer]

My questions for the big bang theory: Who made what blew up, and who made it blow up?

See my link in post 3. :-)

[RadioAstronomer]

Hi Boris! :-)

I posted a link that I think does a pretty good job back in post #3.

[Fire-Breathing_Freeper]

One VERY important thing you should know is the ZOT.

The cruel and unusual punishment for being liberal on FR. There was the best ZOT thread yesterday, but the whimp couldn't handel it and had it pulled. If you are ever ZOTTED, DO NOT do this, take it like a man.

This one was unusually good- Are you a BushBot?


HTML BOOTCAMPmight be useful too.

[boris]

"the whimp couldn't handel it"

I like Handel but prefer Bach.

And what's a "whimp"?

Spelling Zot!

[Fire-Breathing_Freeper]

A whimp is a looser, baby, lame brain, can't face any kind of critisim or bad feelings. In short a spoiled 4 year old, FBF called me a sucker, I'd better cry about it.

handel- damn yet another victim of typing too fast.
Please except my deepest apoligies for disturbing your eyes with a misspelled word.

[RadioAstronomer]

Hello.

The link in post number #3 should answer many of your questions. :-)

[goodseedhomeschool (returned)]

Thank you for the link Radio. It is a very interesting site. I don't agree on some of the conclusions but that's ok. Cosmology is fascinating. There is still so little we really know about it. This field of study will increase for a ong time to come. I do love seeing some of those things out there through the telly though. Have a good day. :)

[El Gato]

BTW, the flat earth model works quite well for navigating an automobile between cities

As long as the cities aren't over a few hundred miles apart, or are directly north/south or east west of each other.

[templar]

As long as the cities aren't over a few hundred miles apart, or are directly north/south or east west of each other.

I've driven clear across the U.S. before without ever considering the curvature of the earth. I don't even have a road map that shows it.

[RadioAstronomer]

I've driven clear across the U.S. before without ever considering the curvature of the earth. I don't even have a road map that shows it.

Except the map makers took the curvature into consideration or the miles would not be accurate.

[RadioAstronomer]

Glad you like the link. :-)

[RadioAstronomer]

Did you go look at the link I provided?

[templar]

Except the map makers took the curvature into consideration or the miles would not be accurate.

You've never worked on a survey crew. The map makers probably used the direct distance measuremnts done by the surveyors, actual measurement of distance from place to place, something that has been doen since long before the spherical concept of the earth was developed (Roman maps and roads from 2000+ years ago are quite good). Basically, you just set yourself on a heading and go in a straight line in that direction and you arrive at your destination (grravity compensates for the earth's curvature so that you don't end up out in the vacuum somewhere on a long journey. You don't even have to think about it, it's all automatic. Same way you don't have to remember to breathe, it just happens).

[RadioAstronomer]

Thanks for the correction. :-)

You are corect, I have not worked on a survey crew.

[El Gato]

And of course one doesn't navigate directly from say Miami to Seattle with no intermediate stops or way points. Road maps don't really show geometric relationships except in a "connectedness" sense and a general direction. If you took the map of the US in your road atlas and measured the apparent direction from Miami to Seattle and headed off that direction, and had a "perfect" compass to keep you heading that direction, you'd miss Seattle by quite a bit. You wouldn't even actually go in a straight line, or great circle, path.

[El Gato]

Basically, you just set yourself on a heading and go in a straight line in that direction and you arrive at your destination

Not if you measure the heading from a map. In fact a great circle route, which is the shortest distance between two points on a shere, does not maintain a constant heading, relative to true north. Except in the special case of going due north or south.

Get a large shere, a basketball or a large beach ball, and experiment, remembering that north is the direction towards the north pole. Maps show north "up" at both San Diego and Portland Maine, but in 3 dimensions on the surface of the earth, norht is not the same direction at both locations. In fact if you are at the equator and want to go to anther point on the equator on the opposite side of a sphere, you'll find that any of the cardinal directions, (NEWS) will get you there, and at the same distance. This is not true for the earth, because it's not a perfect sphere. GPS uses a system which assumes its an ellipsoid of revolution, like a slighty squashed shere, and that's pretty close, but not exact either, as the earth is actually a bit pear shaped.

[templar]

So, if I under stand you, you're saying that if I set out for Houston from Denver in my automobile, since Houston is not due south of me, I can never actually arrive in Houston unless I figure the curvature of the earth into my directions? Last time I made that trip I just set out and followed the roads just like if they were on a flat world, so how come I managed to get to Houston instead of some other city without using either a GPS or some other means of correcting for the earths curvature, and why do the roads on the roadmap go where they are shown to go instead of somewhere else?

I would thing that travelling with you would be an interesting experience (even if a bit slow) : )