"Buffalo Soldiers"...Hollywood military-bashing at its finest.

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[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

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The point is, this movie perpetuates a FALSE, negative stereotype of military people that Hollywood has been wringing for cash now since the 1960s. I'm sorry, but if the "satire" is based upon a FALSE premise, it constitutes slander.

They've perpetuated this crap for nearly three decades. Talk about "never wearing a uniform"...NONE of the current crop of "actors" has, and their attitudes show in their arrogant ignorance.

Normally, I wouldn't care, but there is indeed a WAR on, RIGHT NOW! This is the wrong time for "satire" which paints us all as drugged-out draftees (in an all-volunteer, zero-tolerance organization) who deal in arms on the black market, and then laugh about it.

My initial point was that there are FAR MORE worthy things military that could be the subject of a movie right now...that all over the world, every day, Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airmen are doing things and taking risks - for us ALL - that the H'wood crowd wouldn't DREAM of doing on their BEST day. Why are they being ignored in favor of this trash? Why is the vast, patriotic, pro-military population of Middle America, whose dollars the H'wood Heroes ostensibly lust after, being completely ignored (when it isn't being outright insulted)?

Maybe Schwarzenegger isn't Laurence Olivier, but at least he respects and supports the troops, even personally bringing an advance copy of T3 - The Rise Of The Machines to show them in Iraq. No OTHER "stars" ever did that. And, as for John Wayne, he TRIED to serve and was turned down for his age, old injuries, and the fact that he fathered four children. Nonetheless, he was for his entire life a crusader for American ideals, both on and offscreen, and tirelessly supported American troops abroad with his visits, care packages, and outspoken efforts at home. I'd take both of them over any 1000 pretty-boy coke-nosed wimps out of H'wood nowadays, and never look back.

"BTW: This movie will probably bomb."

That's my aim, and why I posted this. I also didn't want folks to think that, due to the title, that this piece of FOD was a story about the heroic Black Soldiers who served our country in the 19th century (I wonder how THEY would have felt about this?).

"Now if only Affleck and Damon would make a few more stinkers and drop off the face of the earth."

At the rate they're going, it shouldn't take long.

[Soaring Feather]

Support the Troops!!
Trash the Anti Military, Un-American flicks
Email the Troops
Tell them the scoop
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[HiJinx]

Thanks for the pings, you guys. Now I know which movie not to spend my money on this year!!

Miramax, eh? Might not be a bad idea to avoid them altogether.

[SAMWolf]

That's my aim, and why I posted this. I also didn't want folks to think that, due to the title, that this piece of FOD was a story about the heroic Black Soldiers who served our country in the 19th century (I wonder how THEY would have felt about this?).

That was my first thought when I saw the title of the thread, that this was about the 9th or 10th Cavalry.

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I should've posted this in News/Activism...I don't know if there's all that many people on this. AM, hate to bug ya, but is there any way to post this thread over there as well?

Thanx,
LC

[radu]

My initial point was that there are FAR MORE worthy things military that could be the subject of a movie right now...that all over the world, every day, Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airmen are doing things and taking risks - for us ALL - that the H'wood crowd wouldn't DREAM of doing on their BEST day.

I couldn't agree with you more. Apparently, the men I sent the e-mails to last night don't want to hear it though. Both e-mails came back today as "Undeliverable". Imagine that! Looks like I was a little late getting my two-cents' worth in and they've already changed their e-mail addys.

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Thanx anyways. Miramax DOES have a corporate website...i know a few servicemen have already voiced an opinion or two there. Should be at the same link as the info sheet on the movie itself.

[Old Sarge]

I agree, FRiend. The ballot box does NOT seem to be working anymore.

So, what does that leave you with?

[SAMWolf]

So, what does that leave you with? <P.I even hate to contemplate the other half of that equation

[LaDivaLoca]

Thanks for the ping, LC. I heard about this over the radio on G. Liddy's show this past weekend and it got me so steamed. Liddy and practically all the callers criticized this bad move by Miramax (surprise! surprise!) and are calling for a boycott of this atrocious and insulting piece of s*** they call art. I was livid too after hearing what the plot of the movie was all about. I've read a bit about the Buffalo Soldiers and this is a disgrace and a far cry from what those fine warriors are all about!!!

[LaDivaLoca]

I and my family WILL NOT be watching this movie. I will email this to all my friends too and explain to them why they should not watch this piece of s***.

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Thanks, Diva. Oh, and La ConteSSa is running GREAT! She's still a head-turner, only now, she carries a baby seat in the back, a matching blue one. Mini Cut loves riding in her, and it was she that transported him home from the hospital on his first car ride!

[Neil E. Wright]

Greetings Shipmate;

Please Freepmail me your address so I can get a copy of our Support the Troops CD "With Love and Appreciation" out to you to take on your upcoming deployment.

Thank you for your service in the cause of FREEDOM. This old sailor SALUTES you!!!

My apologies to any I've pinged who already have seen this thread ... :)

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"The Era of Osama lasted about an hour, from the time the first plane hit the tower to the moment the General Militia of Flight 93 reported for duty."
Toward FREEDOM

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

What Hollyweird should be DOING is basing a good movie on reality.. like this e-mail. Sometimes TRUTH is better than FICTION! Its has a some coarse language in it, but I'm not going to clean it up, because its real. See the REAL Iraq....Read on:

Forwarded Message From: ***** Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:39:56 EDT To:***** Subject: Spec Opns Email from Iraq COL**** wrote: Language may be a bit off color to some and it is long. However, it is well worth the read. I recommend it. Original message, which came from e-mail thread out of SOCOM (spec. ops command) in Tampa, it is from Army spec. ops Subject: FW: Message From Iraq It Ain't Necessarily So. Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003, 11:09:09 GMT

Hey Guys, sorry it's been so long since I've sent anything but a quick note to you individually. However things have been pretty hectic since the end of hostilities and the start of the real war.

Despite what the assholes in the press like to say over and over about the Ba'ath Party and Feydaheen. 2) It isn't any worse than expected; 3) Things are getting better each day, and 4) The morale of the troops is A-1, except for the normal bitching and griping. My brief love affair with the press, especially the guys who had the cajones to be embedded with the troops during the fighting, is probably over, especially since we are back being criticized by them same RolandHeadly types that used to hang around the Palestine Hotel drinking Baghdad Bob's whiskey and parroting his ridiculous B.S.

I'm in Baghdad now, since SpOpComm 5 relocated here from Qatar. It looks, sounds and smells about the same but at least you can get Maker's Mark at the local OC. We came up in mid-June to help set up operation Scorpion and Sidewinder. It represents a major (and long overdue) shift in tactics. Instead of being sitting ducks for the ragheads we now are going after the worthless pieces of fecal matter. [OD NOTE: VERY understated!]

I'm no longer baby-sitting the pukes from CNN and the canned hams from the networks, but have a combat mission coordinating a bunch of A teams, seeking, finding and rooting out the mostly non-Iraqis that are well-armed, well-paid (in U.S. dollars) and always waiting to wail for the press and then shoot some GI in the back in the midst of a crowd.

The only reason the GIs are pissed (not demoralized) is that they cannot touch, must less waste, those taunting bags of gas that scream in their faces and riot on cue when they spot a camera man from ABC, BBC, CBS, CNN or NBC. If they did, then they know the next nightly news will be about how chaotic things are and how much the Iraqi people hate us. Some do.

But the vast majority don't and more and more see that the GIs don't start anything, are by-and-large friendly, and very compassionate, especially to kids and old people. I saw a bunch of 19 year-olds from the 82nd Airborne not return fire coming from a mosque until they got a group of elderly civilians out of harm's way. So did the Iraqis. A bunch of bad guys used a group of women and children as human shields.The GIs surrounded them and negotiated their surrender fifteen hours later and when they discovered a three year-old girl had been injured by the big tough guys throwing her down a flight of stairs, the GIs called in a MedVac helicopter to take her and her mother to the nearest field hospital. The Iraqis watched it all, and there hasn't been a problem inthat neighborhood since.

How many such stories, and there are hundreds of them, never get reported in the fair and balanced press? You know, nada. The civilians who have figured it out faster than anyone are the local teenagers. They watch the GIs and try to talk to them and ask questions about America and Now wear wrap-around sunglasses, GAP T- shirts, Dockers (or even better Levis with the red tags) and Nikes (or Egyptian knock-offs, but with the "swoosh") and love to listen to AFN when the GIs play it on their radios. They participate less and less in the demonstrations and help keep us informed when a wannabe bad-ass shows up in the neighborhood.

The younger kids are going back to school again, don't have to listen to some mullah rant about the Koran ten hours a day, and they get a hot meal. They see the same GIs who man the corner checkpoint, helping clear the playground, install new swingsets and create soccer fields. I watched a bunch of kids playing baseball in one playground, under the supervision of a couple of GIs from Oklahoma. They weren't very good but were having fun, probably more than most Little Leaguers

The place is still a mess but most of it has been for years. But the Hospitals are open and are in the process of being brought into the 21stCentury. The MOs and visiting surgeons from home are teaching their docs new techniques and One American pharmaceutical company (you know, the kind that all the hippies like to scream about as greedy) donated enough medicine to stock 45 hospital pharmacies for a year. > Safe water is more available. > Electricity has been restored to pre-war levels but saboteurs keep cutting the lines. And The old Ba'ath big shots are upset because they can't get fuel for their private generators. One actually complained to General McKeirnan, who told him it was a rough world.

The MPs are screening the 80,000 Iraqi police force and rehabbing the ones that weren't goons, shake-down artists or torturers like they did in East Berlin, Kosovo and Afghanistan. > There are dual patrols of Iraqi cops and U.S./U.K./Polish MPs now in most of the larger cities. >

Basra has 3.5 million inhabitants. > Mosul is a city of 2 million. > Kirkuk has 1 million. > How many and hundreds of other small towns have not had riots or shootings? The vast majority. > >

The six U.K. cops were killed in a small Shiite town by the ex-cops they were re-habbing. > According to a Royal Marine colonel I talked to, the town now has about twenty permanent vacancies in its police force. > Mick, he's a big potato eater from Belfast named Huggins and knows how to handle terrorists after twenty years fighting with the IRA. He sends his regards and says he'd love to have you here. Thinks you'd make a great police chief, even though the cops would be more frightened of you than the local hoods (then he laughed) > >

I heard one doofus on MSNBC the other night talk about how "nearly 60" GIs have been killed since 01 May. The truth is that 21 GIs have been killed in combat, mostly from ambush, from 01 May through 30 June, Another 29 have been killed by accidents or other causes (two drowned while swimming in the Tigris). > > The [MSNBC turd] is the same jerk who reported on the air that "dozens of GIs" were badly burned when two RPGs hit a truck belonging to an Engineer Battalion that was parked by a construction site. The truck was hit and burned, three GIs received minor injuries (including the driver who burnt his hand) and three warriors of Allah were promptly sent to enjoy their 72 slave girls in Paradise. Hell of a way to get laid. > >

A mosque in that shithole Fallujah blew up this morning while the local > imam, a creep named Fahlil (who was one of the biggest local loudmouths that frequently appeared on CNN) was helping a Syrian Hamas member teach eight teenagers how to make belt bombs. Right away the local Feyhadeen propaganda group started wailing that the Americans hit it with a TOW missile (If they had there wouldn't have been any mosque left!) and the usual suspects took to the streets for CNN and BBC. One fool was dragging around a piece of tin with blood on it, claiming it was part of the missile. > > The cameras rolled and the idiot started repeating his story, then one of my guys asked him in Arabic where he had left the rag he usually wore around his face that made him look like a girl.

He was a local leader of the Feyhadeen. We took the clown in custody and were asked rather indignantly by the twit from BBC if we were trying to shut up "the poor man who had seen his mosque and friends blown up." I told the airy-fairy who the raghead was and if he knew Arabic (which he obviously didn't) he'd know he was a Palestinian. I suggested we take him down to the local jail and we'd lock him and his cameraman in a cell with the "poor man" and they could interview him until we took him to headquarters. They declined the invitation. >

Guess what played on the Bullshit Broadcasting System that evening? Did the > Americans blow up a mosque? See the poor man who is still in a state of shock over losing his mosque and relatives? Yep. Our friend the > Palestinian. > >

Our search and destroy missions are largely at night, free of reporters and > generally terrifying to those brave warriors of Allah. The only thing that frightens them more is hearing the word "Gitmo". The word is out that a trip to Guantanimo Bay is not a Caribbean vacation and they usually start squealing like the little mice they are, when an interrogator mentions "Gitmo". No wonder the International Red Cross, the National Council of Churches and the French keep protesting about the place. They know it has proven to be very effective in keeping several hundred real fanatical psychopaths in check and very frankly would rather see them cut loose to go kill some more GIs or innocent Americans, just to make W. look bad. > >

We have about 200 really bad guys in custody now and probably will park them in the desert behind a triple roll of razor wire, backed up by a couple of Bradleys pointed their way, if they decide to riot. Maybe a few will get to Gitmo but most are human garbage that wouldn't take on your five-year old grandson face-to-face. The more we go after them and not vice-versa I think we will see the sniper attacks go down. Yeah, they'll get lucky now and then, but it's showtime, fellows. > >

Our first objective is to get the die-hards off the street (or make them too > scared to come out in them) and destroy their caches of weapons (we have > collected more than 227,000 A-47s and that is only the tip of the iceburg; > Curly bought nearly a million of them from our pal Vladimir), then cut off > their money supply, mostly from Syria and Lebanon.

We must continue to get > public services up and running, so the local families can get water, sewage > and garbage service; electricity, public transportation; oil fields and > refineries working and a dinar that won't halve in value every month. > >

It's going to be a long haul (remember it took 10-15 years in Japan and West > Germany) but if we don't stick with it, nobody else will, and we'll have > some other looney running the place again. > > This place has greater potential than Saudi Arabia (bunch of goat-herders > who struck black gold) or Iran (weird dudes who can't run a rug bazaar much > less a major country). > > Armageddon, here we come. Remember, it's located on the outskirts of > Jerusalem. > > Enough of that cheery speculation. >

The good news is that General Schoonmaker is going to appointed ChiefArmy > and the old man is coming to Tampa to run the SpOps desk at CentComm. He's > tops and will be getting his second star. To me it means that SpOps will be > more predominant in future operations and after 18 years as a GB maybe I'll > have a shot at a bird-level combat command. The old man asked me to come to > MacDill and be his ACS but I told him after I spent four months changing the > diapers of the media types, I wanted to go back to action. Hence, my > current gig. As the movie quoted old General Patton, "God help me, I love > it." I do. Nothing more satisfying than working with the BEST damn soldiers > in the world, flushing real human poop down the drain and giving some folks > a chance at trying freedom for a change. They may learn to like it and then > my great-great-grandson won't have to worry about some maniac trying to > destroy the planet. > >

My tour is over at the end of August, and I plan to return to Tampa, brief > the old man, then head to San Rafael and see my two sweethearts. I'd like > to visit my parents in Toronto and my brother in London, before taking on a > trip across the country. Just like any other family. It will charge my > batteries before I end up back in some other shit ... er, interesting and > challenging location. I hope to see most of you and ask for some advice, > not support. I know I've had that all along. Thanks. > > Now about that Maker's Mark. > God Bless America > Mark. > > "War doesn't determine who wins, war determines who is left" De Oppresso Liber - RLTW! Special Forces Association PO Box 41436 Fayetteville, NC 28309-1436 email: ***** Telephone ***** website: www.sfahq.org Fax ***** ------ End of Forwarded Message

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Good morning
& bttt

[Cinnamon Girl]

You can tell from the poster that this film blows chunks.

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If this outrages you, GO TO THIS THREAD. Hit the links there to the Drudge Report summary of this movie.

Prepare to have your blood boil...

A quote from the "star" of this waste of celluloid, one Joachim Phoenix: "I don't know why anyone would be offended..."

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MASH HERE for the Drudge Report story. Take some Pepto or a stiff drink first, though.

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Ping. It's Boil-Your-Blood time...