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How Socialism is INEXTRICABLY Linked to Our Monetary System
The American Partisan ^ | April 22, 2002 | Mark Anderson

Posted on 07/20/2003 12:00:00 AM PDT by sourcery

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1 posted on 07/20/2003 12:00:01 AM PDT by sourcery
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2 posted on 07/20/2003 12:00:50 AM PDT by sourcery (The Evil Party thinks their opponents are stupid. The Stupid Party thinks their opponents are evil.)
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Money, by Otto Scott (August 1984):

Our economic system, and in large measure, our social system, is often said to be based on money. This is an exaggeration. The United States was founded on far broader and more important principles than economics can convey. But it is true that money is important to us, but not for the sleazy reasons so often cited. These reasons resemble the envious Karl Marx, to whom money was so besetting an obsession that he thought it ruled the world, and explained history.

Those among us who ignorantly agree with Marx might be surprised to learn that our own twentieth century is reestablishing what the ancient world knew well: that money is not an indispensable ingredient in a civilization, and can ? in fact ? be virtually eliminated.

This insight was first rediscovered by the leaders of the Terrorist phase of the French Revolution. That great prototype of left-wing takeovers was a favored study of Marx and Engels and the leaders of the Russian Revolution. It also remains a subject of study among economists and persons drawn to politics.

Naturally enough, different students extract different lessons. The politically-minded are drawn toward the first progressive income-tax in the West, the rhetoric of authoritarian socialism, the application of anti-Christianity, and the general conscription of property and individuals by the State. The economists are drawn toward the creation of French fiat money (assignats), the subsequent inflation, and the transfer of property from one class to another.

Lenin and his heirs, however, saw the French Revolution through another prism. Lenin focused first upon the subject of terror. Unlike those who were horrified by the violence of the French Revolution, Lenin was scornful. He felt that the Committee of Public Safety, headed by Robespierre, did not create enough terror. "We shall not make that mistake," he said, nor did he.

Lenin and his associates saw that the members of an entire class could be stripped of their possessions, so long as other classes could be made to believe that they would be the beneficiaries of such expropriations. The French Revolution proved that a ruling class could be destroyed within months, and the lives of the remaining millions reorganized to serve the purposes of the state.

Beyond that, Lenin & Co. saw another factor, one that had evaded previous students. They saw that the coinage of a nation could be swept aside as irrelevant to a government. Under Lenin, the Bolshevik Party (which renamed itself a Soviet, after the names of previously functioning Worker?s Councils), applied these insights without limitations.

Therefore, of all the problems that confront the Soviet State, the least is monetary. Soviet citizens are provided a sort of scrip, termed rubles, which are of no value outside the USSR, and are not even valuable, per se inside.

Many people in the West seem to have difficulty visualizing what this means. It means that in the Soviet Union, an individual cannot improve his circumstance simply by gathering a large mass of rubles. Rubles alone do not allow an individual to enter the special store (open only to high Party members and foreigners) and buy from an abundance of goods. Rubles alone do not allow an individual to register in a special luxury hotel, or dine in a special luxury restaurant, or buy luxury clothes and articles, travel outside the country, move to another house, or change jobs. The rubles for all these uses (and many others) must be accompanied by a special Party card, or special Party permission.

Money, therefore, does not translate into individual power in the Soviet marketplace, as it does in the West. Money does not have the same political power in the Kremlin that it holds in Washington, London, Paris or Jerusalem.

Once that USSR system was firmly fixed (and it took a while to establish), the pattern moved across the left-totalitarian world. It prevails in mainland China, in Vietnam, in Cuba, in Nicaragua, in Cambodia, in the nations of Eastern Europe, and in the Marxist regions of Africa. These are all essentially money-less societies ? where the individual has lost money as a lever of advancement.

In all these lands, where the intellectual pattern is taken from the example of Leninism-Stalinism, the great individual avenue of escape from oppression, of upward mobility, of achieving a higher standard of living, of achieving influence or making life better for one?s children through money, has been closed.

The citizens of these nations know, therefore, what the loss of money means. It means that the great avenue of escape from oppression, available to every diligent person in the West, has been closed. No buffer between the individual and the mighty forces of the State remains and they know ? bitterly ? that despite all the individual weaknesses that money evokes, the absence of money in a civilization does not usher in a rule of virtue. On the contrary: naked power brooks no limits.

The significance of money in the West, therefore, is more than what it can buy in terms of goods or services. Money is inextricably entwined with individual rights. It means, in what remains of the free West, the right to buy whatever one can pay for, to move wherever one likes, to change jobs, to travel, to live according to one?s own standards.

To some extent these are considered negative freedoms. But they are freedoms. We know that the cliché that money cannot buy happiness is true. We know, as a society and as individuals, that the love of money leads to many evils. Certainly many people pay too much for the money they obtain, in terms of a surrender of basic values.

But it should not be forgotten that money, in the sense of the gold and silver coinage of the Western past, accompanied the rise of freedom in the West. Individuals bought their freedom from slavery, from overlords. Individuals became free, then cities and nations. Cromwell converted Britain from a nation in misery to a rich and prosperous land in large part by restoring honest money and ending the arbitrary confiscations of the King.

To think of money in purely negative terms, therefore, is a mistake. The invention of money originally led men out of slavery. In the West money has been the traditional means of rewarding merit, of extending charity, of assisting the poor and the needy, and the worthy, of improving the standards of society, creating schools, hospitals, businesses and churches, and of enabling the private sector to achieve for itself, and individuals for themselves, what the left-totalitarians mandate (on their own terms) for all.

Without money (real money, that is), entire nations can be enslaved, and kept in that condition for eons.

That is the real reason why fiat money (money issued from printing presses, representing nothing of value beyond the power of the State) diminishes the value of real money (which was once usable everywhere). And the reason why the degradation of money in the West, from a valuable commodity in its own right (see Money and Man, Groseclose, U. of Oklahoma, 1976, passim) to the promises of untrustworthy governments, represents a long and dangerous step in the West toward the diminution of individual freedom.

Copyright © 1981?1994 Chalcedon Report, P.O. Box 158, Vallecito, CA 95251

3 posted on 07/20/2003 12:15:19 AM PDT by sourcery (The Evil Party thinks their opponents are stupid. The Stupid Party thinks their opponents are evil.)
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To: sourcery
Technically, the "dollar" is based on silver not gold. The point being that silver is much less likely to be subject to manipulation as was the case in the 1870's when there were attempts to de-monetize silver by the New York banking barons who held huge amounts of gold.
4 posted on 07/20/2003 12:25:08 AM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: sourcery
Mises on Money
5 posted on 07/20/2003 12:27:08 AM PDT by sourcery (The Evil Party thinks their opponents are stupid. The Stupid Party thinks their opponents are evil.)
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To: sourcery
You know, reading this article, there are so many times when the "yeah, but" aspect came into play... There are so many flaws in this... lecture... that I don't really know where to start...

But thank you for posting it. It was quite amusing.

6 posted on 07/20/2003 12:30:41 AM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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To: sourcery
Also for those looking for a slightly more "user friendly" explanation, see here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b2c5c2a6036.htm

7 posted on 07/20/2003 12:31:49 AM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: agitator
According to The Coinage Act of April 2, 1792:

EAGLES--each to be of he value of ten dollars or units, and to contain two hundred and forty-seven grains and four eighths of a grain of pure, or two hundred and seventy grains of standard gold.

DOLLARS OR UNITS--each to be of the value of a Spanish milled dollar as the same is now current, and to contain three hundred and seventy-one grains and four sixteenth parts of a grain of pure, or four hundred and sixteen grains of standard silver.

Section 11. And be it further enacted, That of gold and silver the proportional value of gold and silver in all coins which shall by law be current as money within the United States, shall be fifteen to one, according to quantity in weight, of pure gold or pure silver; that is to say, every fifteen payments, with one pound weight of pure gold, and so in proportion as to any greater or less quantities of the respective metals.

8 posted on 07/20/2003 12:34:16 AM PDT by sourcery (The Evil Party thinks their opponents are stupid. The Stupid Party thinks their opponents are evil.)
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To: sourcery
Partisan=pinko commie
9 posted on 07/20/2003 12:34:16 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Capitalist Eric
I don't really know where to start

Sorry, you don't get to play that game. Either state your case, or admit defeat.

10 posted on 07/20/2003 12:36:42 AM PDT by sourcery (The Evil Party thinks their opponents are stupid. The Stupid Party thinks their opponents are evil.)
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To: sourcery
Sorry, you don't get to play that game. Either state your case, or admit defeat.

No, those aren't the only choices available. I suggest you get a degree in Economics (with a heavy emphasis on macroeconomics), then come back and talk to me... I have neither the time, nor the desire, to educate someone who (erroneously) believes they know something they obviously do not understand. Because if you did, you would be embarrassed to be associated with this article.

As a final aspect, it is exceedingly difficult to disprove a negative, especially when the other person is such a believer. Nice try.

Again, I was amused by the article. JMHO.

11 posted on 07/20/2003 12:44:52 AM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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Partisan=pinko commie

Normally, I'd ignore you. But the level of ignorance in this comment is just too outrageous. It reminds of the brouhaha over the use of the word "niggardly," because some idiot thought it had something to do with the "n-word."

Here's the definition of partisan:

  1. A fervent, sometimes militant supporter or proponent of a party, cause, faction, person, or idea.
  2. A member of an organized body of fighters who attack or harass an enemy, especially within occupied territory; a guerrilla.

And anyone who cares can easily surf to American-Partisan.com and judge for themselves what the politics of the site happens to be. Hint: it's not a socialist/communist site.

12 posted on 07/20/2003 12:45:57 AM PDT by sourcery (The Evil Party thinks their opponents are stupid. The Stupid Party thinks their opponents are evil.)
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to whom money was so besetting an obsession that he thought it ruled the world, and explained history

Doesn't it? It buys our politicians, thus legislation that undoes the average person.
13 posted on 07/20/2003 12:50:42 AM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: Capitalist Eric
I have no intention of becoming a disciple of Mr. Keynes, thank you. I'll stick with Mises and Hayek.

I have neither the time, nor the desire, to educate someone who (erroneously) believes they know something they obviously do not understand. Because if you did, you would be embarrassed to be associated with Keynesianism and assignats.

14 posted on 07/20/2003 12:51:49 AM PDT by sourcery (The Evil Party thinks their opponents are stupid. The Stupid Party thinks their opponents are evil.)
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To: sourcery
Exploiting the Delusions of Money
15 posted on 07/20/2003 1:01:58 AM PDT by sourcery (The Evil Party thinks their opponents are stupid. The Stupid Party thinks their opponents are evil.)
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To: agitator
"Technically, the "dollar" is based on silver not gold. The point being that silver is much less likely to be subject to manipulation as was the case in the 1870's when there were attempts to de-monetize silver by the New York banking barons who held huge amounts of gold."


The dollar USE to be based on silver and gold.
It is now based on your labor.
That is why the gov. calls it your debt.
16 posted on 07/20/2003 2:37:29 AM PDT by sopwith (don't tread on me)
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To: sourcery
odd, during WW II and just after, I remember the label "partisan" was actually used by communists revolutionaries. hmmm
17 posted on 07/20/2003 4:51:06 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: sourcery
It's a wonder money even exists. So many different opinions.

Everybody needs to step back and take the simplest definition and after that has been fully inculcated realize that additional requisites that are placed on its useage and creation are for the benefit of those putting the rules in place. Whether it's the Ruble, dollar, gold or silver.

Once you see this then realize that every overlayed requisite is the scheme of someone(s) to extract a particular benefit.

Any and every scheme on the useage and control of money is to someone(s) benefit but not to everyones. Gold and silver was and attempt to cut all of these schemes out but the criminals always found a way around it.

Money is a representation of value and therefore is and should be backed by something of value. How it gets created, exchanged and used other than this simplistic definition is a con game and/or a control/slavery game, both criminal to ones fellow man.
18 posted on 07/20/2003 10:35:52 AM PDT by imawit
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To: sourcery
I have no intention of becoming a disciple of Mr. Keynes

Then remain ignorant of reality.

19 posted on 07/20/2003 8:43:57 PM PDT by Capitalist Eric
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Then remain ignorant of reality.

Let's see. Did Keynesian theory work during the last thirteen years in Japan? Nope. Has it worked during the last three years in the United States or in Europe? Nope. So just who is ignorant of reality here?

20 posted on 07/20/2003 8:50:02 PM PDT by sourcery (The Evil Party thinks their opponents are stupid. The Stupid Party thinks their opponents are evil.)
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