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Given Werner Von Braun's assertions to his PhD assistant that the war on terror followed by the war on Iraq would be followed by an unnecessary war on ET . . . perhaps we should give more thought to the historical record--as spotty, mysterious, convoluted etc. as it is.

Then there's that story of UFO's over Iraq recently. Still trying to track those down.

Interesting times to be alive.

1 posted on 05/17/2003 12:01:08 PM PDT by Quix
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"...Roswell crash in July, 1947..."

Hmmm. Anybody know when the Clintons surfaced...er...I mean...were born?
110 posted on 05/17/2003 6:59:28 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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Hey Quix! Here's another piece of the puzzle...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/913343/posts

Sometime I'll have to tell you about the sister of one of my brother's friends who told me when I was a kid about an uncle of hers that was in the Army and worked with a guy who had gotten his plum job of driving brass around because he was a big-shot hero from exploits on a XXX super secret triple 007 project underneath the earth's crust where he was wounded battling space aliens and mole people. It's kind of a long story and even now I'm kind of skittish about relating the details since you never know who's reading stuff on the web - know what I mean? Anyway, its a spellbinder and sure to raise series questions about what is real and what is not...
117 posted on 05/17/2003 7:51:29 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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von Braun never said any of those things. It's just made up crap meant to influence public opinion. That anyone takes such conspiracy twaddle seriously is hard to believe.

However, the following is real. :') In one of the (previously unpublished) photos taken of the infamous debunking press conference, General Ramey was holding a memo or telegram or some other sort of typed document.

http://roswellproof.homestead.com/Memo_HiRes_600dpi.html

David Rudiak used various techniques to clean up the image, and found the phrase "victims of the wreck" among other things. Here are links from MUFON:

http://www.ufomind.com/people/j/johnsonj/ (about J. Bond Johnson)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ (Main Link to Debris and Memo)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ftw-pics/index.htm (Ramey Office Photos)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ftw-pics/new-1/index.htm (Memo)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ftw-pics/new-1/rmysignl.htm (Memo)
http://adm2.ph.man.ac.uk/ftw-pics/download/index.htm (2.5 meg image scan a BIG file)
http://www.abduct.com/aaer/n52.htm (Symbols In Debris)
http://www.abduct.com/aaer/n53.htm (Symbols In Debris)
http://www.artbell.com/jbjohnson.html (Ramey Photos & Symbols)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/8827/ramey.html (Memo)
http://www.abcfield.force9.co.uk/rpit/letter.html. (Thanks to RPIT and Dr. Bond Johnson)


155 posted on 12/26/2004 5:19:41 PM PST by SunkenCiv (There's nothing new under the Sun. That accounts for the many quotes used as taglines.)
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