Fried Eggs

Desert Post Weekly ^ | 12 September 2002

[WindMinstrel]

I was watching the Discovery Channel's "Supermax" last night -- a documentary on a super-max prison system. One 15-minute segment was on a raid on one inmate's cell.

Seems that they recently imposed a new rule on the prisoners -- no smoking anywhere, at any time. Tobacco was contraband.

You can guess the result. The prison started to see as many fights over tobacco as they had before with any truly illegal drug. One inmate was talking about how he'd buy 3 cartons of cigs from a guard for $1000 (!!) -- then sell them to his friends for twice that.

You'd think that with all the experience we've had with prohibition we'd realize that it really doesn't work. The punishments keep increasing, the outrages even worse, yet we don't change. Insanity, eh?

[Wolfie]

Insane, yes, but fun to watch nonetheless.

[Neckbone]

You mean to tell me that arbitrarily making something illegal didn't prevent people's attempts to acquire it? Next thing you'll come up with is that you can't legislate morality!

[Neckbone]

There you go defending personal freedom again- think of the children! The childrennnnnnnnnnnnnn!

[Hemingway's Ghost]

I was watching the Discovery Channel's "Supermax" last night -- a documentary on a super-max prison system. One 15-minute segment was on a raid on one inmate's cell.

I believe I've seen that documentary. CHILLING.

Plus the one on Angola: I think it was called The Farm or something like that?

[Dane]

Looks to me like they presented both sides of the issue.

Too bad your boy got outgunned by middle school, H.S. and college age students.

Yeah right, sure. Like I said before ABC probably hand picked the students to knock Walters since he is working for a Republican administration and you know it.

Oh BTW this is the same ABC that was successfully sued by the supermarket chain Food Lion for doing a false report on Food Lion stores, but you go ahead with your "lionizing" of your new left friends, ABC News.

[freeforall]

Good question! If Lyndon Larouche were to be taken seriously... LOL! He claims the Queen of England's family are major players.

[headsonpikes]

RE;' the cigarette ban'

Sounds to me like it's working fine--the lying blowhards running the system can claim they're 'proactive', the guards can scoop some extra coin, and the Darwinian/Pavlovian experiment that is America's prison system will cripple hundreds of thousands more future 'clients' of the Caring&Sharing Industry.(aka The Gubmint)

Meanwhile, the moral and intellectual cretins who support this obscene travesty continue to post here.

Appalling. Thank God the young don't believe these lying b*stards for one minute. ;^)

[Neckbone]

Oh BTW this is the same ABC that was successfully sued by the supermarket chain Food Lion for doing a false report on Food Lion stores, but you go ahead with your "lionizing" of your new left friends, ABC News.

How liberating that must be for you, Dane, not bothering with that whole "making sense" thing. Your streams of consciousness, while often sad, are at least.....different.

[AUgrad]

Yeah right, sure. Like I said before ABC probably hand picked the students to knock Walters since he is working for a Republican administration and you know it.

At least this time you qualified it as your opinion. You do sound a little paranoid though.

[Dane]

You can point to Soros,

And you seem to try to point away from socialist and Hillary friend, Geroge Soros, but you in doing that are ignoring the facts that socialist and Hillary friend Soros is the main advocate for drugs.

Sorry that you don't like being in political bed with Soros, but trying to put a paper bag over his head is not a good arguement, IMHO.

[Dane]

Dane, not bothering with that whole "making sense" thing.

Uh the "making sense" thing is that ABC News has been found of committing fraud in regards to it's news reporting(The Food Lion Fraud).

They are not to be trusted as reputable source.

[tacticalogic]

I haven't tried pointing away from him, I've just asked why you insist on trying to make him the subject of the discussion. Why not start a thread about Soros, instead of trying to turn this into one? You claim because Soros is a socialist, and he supports it, so it must be socialist.

FDR started it - does that make him a paragon of conservativism? How about the UN - our drug policy is perfectly in line with their recommendations. Are the blue helmets our friends?

To simply say "Whatever Soros is for I must be against." is to let him think for you.

[Neckbone]

They are not to be trusted as reputable source

Okay, let's play The Dane Game. So you are arguing that the ONDCP and PFADFA are indeed not starting a new series of ads designed to get kids to stop using drugs, or are you arguing that due to ABC's having a Liberal bias (good catch, Dane) the kids interviewed lack credibility and that such commercials are, despite empirical evidence to the contrary, effective? I assume it's the latter, but one can never be certain with you.

[Dane]

Why not start a thread about Soros, instead of trying to turn this into one?

Uh like it or not Soros is a part of the drug debate(a big part especially with the money he gives to pro-drug causes), trying to wish him away does no good. Only makes you look like you have your head in the sand, IMHO.

[Dane]

or are you arguing that due to ABC's having a Liberal bias (good catch, Dane) the kids interviewed lack credibility and that such commercials are, despite empirical evidence to the contrary, effective?

Yep, ABC and the rest of the Liberal media have been known to skew stories in the past, why should I beleive them now.

[Dane]

And you are?

I am one person with an opinion, if you want to take ABC's opinion over mine, knock yourself out. I really don't care if you take ABC's word as gospel. Just don't whine when someone points it out.

[tacticalogic]

Uh like it or not Soros is a part of the drug debate

To you maybe. But your implications that it is some kind of socialist agenda won't pass even the most basic consistency check.