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Prosecutor: Westerfield Guilty 'Beyond Possible Doubt'(Many Still Find Van Dam's Culpable)
Court TV ^ | August 7, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 08/06/2002 8:53:49 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: nycgal
That's it!! I didn't word it exactly......Sorry. But we still didn't hear from Barb Easton, did we?
721 posted on 08/07/2002 4:07:47 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: UCANSEE2
Dusek is the only one that specifically addressed the case for a SINGLE HOLDOUT.

I believe you are mistaken. Dusek brought it up because Feldman raised it on his closing statement.

722 posted on 08/07/2002 4:09:45 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: the Deejay
But we still didn't hear from Barb Easton, did we?

No, we didn't. Shucks! But do not fret, we may hear from her when DVD goes to trial.

723 posted on 08/07/2002 4:10:10 PM PDT by nycgal
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To: VRWC_minion
How many cases would you like me to quote for you?? how many would you like me to post that I have seen with my very own eyes? how many links do you need? because it happens quite alot in hospitals and nursing homes and in home care situations the world over
724 posted on 08/07/2002 4:11:08 PM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: the Deejay
Yes, Deejay, I'm sure you wouldn't. I just thought that was mighty ballsy of him to say that, and then not do it. As far as I'm concerned, Barb and Bill Libby are two of the biggest puzzles of this case. I just keep wondering and wondering why neither of them testified, for either side. I would think they both would have plenty to say, if it could be dragged out of them. What do you think?
725 posted on 08/07/2002 4:11:11 PM PDT by MagnoliaMS
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To: VRWC_minion
They apparently both agree that the best case scenario is a hung jury with a single holdout.

Or, another view is that both lawyers have enough experience to know they cannot predict what every member of every jury will do.

That no matter what else, don't assume you WON. Go for the minimum, the single holdout that will give you your win. SO, for Prosecution it is eliminate the holdout, for Defense it is get a holdout.

This would be true in every court case.

726 posted on 08/07/2002 4:11:46 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
I listened to Feldman and he talked to the entire JURY.

I just realized your problem. Too literal. Feldman was appealing to the possible juror who disagreed with the rest in the case of a hung jury. He encouraged that juror to hold his ground. If he thought that the majority of the jurors were on his side he would have encouraged the juror to go with the majority.

727 posted on 08/07/2002 4:12:18 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: Yeti
dusek says -- see all these orange shirts? not the fiber.

You folks are here to hopefully make this decision. If your going to attack them...don't try to save yourself... Can't hold the VD lifestyle as relevant at all.. unless you thin k they did it... they're lifestyle has nothing to do with who did it....

Adversarial relationship .. don't know what it means...i know it doesn't mean you get to misstate facts, doesn't mean you get to try to create evidence where there is none...that is not this system.. that system stinks..this system is to get to the truth.. the credible evidence.. not mistsatements..

claims evidence of VD carpet in DW motorhome..right after saying what he just did about mistating evidence and misrepresenting facts...

728 posted on 08/07/2002 4:13:53 PM PDT by Yeti
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
How many cases would you like me to quote for you??

None, but could you describe the process ? How far can the larva go toward becoming a fly ?

729 posted on 08/07/2002 4:13:54 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion; All

BREAKING NEWS FLASH

DUH-KNEES MAKES LATE AFTERNOON APPEARANCE.....

New Revelations Could Break Westerfield Case.....

 

Wide Open....

(Posted with permission of Registered...FDA)

730 posted on 08/07/2002 4:14:52 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: UCANSEE2
SO, for Prosecution it is eliminate the holdout, for Defense it is get a holdout.

I can see that for the defense but not for the prosecution.

731 posted on 08/07/2002 4:15:21 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
Apparently you are a minority here. Reading the comments here for the past two days Dusek may as well just quit before he starts.

This is the problem with some posters. They assume just because a poster things DW is NOT GUILTY that that same person believes DW will get a NOT GUILTY from the JURY.

This is not true for all.

Yes DUSEK should have quit before he started. IMO.

But, even though I think DW is being railroaded, I can't predict what the JURY will do, and Spectre may just be right. From what I have seen in your responses, you don't know if DW is guilty or not but you believe he will be found GUILTY. Isn't that right.

SHould I judge that because you think he will be found guilty, that you believe he is guilty?

732 posted on 08/07/2002 4:16:00 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: MagnoliaMS
"Barb and Bill Libby"

Yes, missing links I'd say. They played a big part in this, especially Barb. A very intricate part and highly mentioned person. Yet, she wasn't seen in court.
The jury must be wondering, too.
733 posted on 08/07/2002 4:16:21 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: FresnoDA
Who is the girl. She is very cute.
734 posted on 08/07/2002 4:16:22 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: nycgal
Now THAT is the trial I would love to see (but don't believe it will ever happen). I believe with all my heart that he was either partially or fully responsible for whatever happened to Danielle.
735 posted on 08/07/2002 4:18:03 PM PDT by MagnoliaMS
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To: VRWC_minion
You are kidding, I HOPE??
736 posted on 08/07/2002 4:19:00 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: UCANSEE2
. They assume just because a poster things DW is NOT GUILTY that that same person believes DW will get a NOT GUILTY from the JURY.

I believe that is true but you couldn't prove it by the posters here who say how bad the defense case is. Most of the DW posters all seem to be in unison that the prosecutor case isn't good enough to convict to the point of making fun of Dusek.

Apparently, Feldman disagrees with them and Dusek thinks he is in good shape.

737 posted on 08/07/2002 4:19:20 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
I don't WANT him to be guilty, but because of the non-sequestration of the jury, because of the Samantha and Cassandra rape/murders, because I don't TRUST the jury and believe they have isolated themselves from the media, and BECAUSE Judge Mudd has favored Dusek...I have to face reality. The deck is stacked against DW.

I would LOVE to be wrong :~)

BTW, Dusek can't stop talking...he's like the Ever-Ready-Bunny..geeze.

sw

738 posted on 08/07/2002 4:19:34 PM PDT by spectre
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To: VRWC_minion
You are so out of the loop - I'm embarrassed for ya - LOL
739 posted on 08/07/2002 4:19:53 PM PDT by mommya
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To: spectre
BTW, Dusek can't stop talking...he's like the Ever-Ready-Bunny..geeze.

Whats he got to loose ? Just run out the clock.

740 posted on 08/07/2002 4:20:53 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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