Prosecutor: Westerfield Guilty 'Beyond Possible Doubt'(Many Still Find Van Dam's Culpable)

Court TV ^ | August 7, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[shezza]

What we have is a concordance of science, forensic pathology and entomology, that addresses timing that DNA cannot. Impossible.

Faulkner: 16-18. DAW under constant surveillance. Impossible.
Haskell: Maggot mass, push back estimate by 1 day;
Hall: In agreement. Pushes it out a little more, but in agreement.

Prosecution liked Wecht's report so much they fed it to Rodriguez. Wecht found 10 days to 28 days. Pathologists agree with entomologists. These are PhD educated, internationally recognized experts.

[Henrietta]

While I wish you the best of luck, and don't mean to discourage you by any means, I would be very surprised if any govt employee would investigate and prosecute any other govt employee. They stick together and cover up for each other like nobody's bizness. They just don't do anything to get each other in trouble. I see it here all the time with the Oregon State Bar; government attorneys get away with any kind of unethical crap they want to, and are never disciplined. The State Bar (all govt employees) simply refuses to investigate.

[ThreeYearLurker]

Hey, I thought you were going to send me the details.

[FresnoDA]

"If this 1 bug were to mutate...and if a spawning solution were sprayed on it...you would divide the 1 bug by 7, that would give you 13 bugs. Then, you would multiply the wings by 4, and that would give you 11. And you know what.....that fly will become a beautiful butterfly...... Yep, that's my story, and I'm sticking to it.... Uhm...where is the bathroom?"

[shezza]

RE Rodriguez: How did you get to the dates 1/17 to 1/31, because we all know she wasn't even missing until Feb 2? Based on his experience. What's your opinion? 28-42 days. Does that have the ring of truth? Come on!

He took numbers provided to him by prosecution, based on Cyril Wecht's numbers. What he does is prove the defense point. There is an indisputable, beyond a reasonable doubt of concordance that DAW did not dump body. This is absolute certainty, folks. They're going attack the entomology, but remember when Rodriguez did not use the outside ranges of the entomologists, it was not an accurate statement. Some of the things he said were believable. HE might be good on mummies. He might be good on carbon dating. But he doesn't know much about forensic entomology. Danielle was not deposited before the 9th of February, and that's using Dr. Goff's inaccurate report.

[BARLF]

Oh, one more thing..........These connections to disappearances of children and young adults in Fl.,and Ca. is very weird. I asked my husband yesterday how many cases like this had he been close to in his life time. Seventy- six years and there was none. PDvD must be the exception.

[Eva]

Wow, I am glad to hear that you are making some progress with your law suit. I had no idea that you were still fighting that.

By the way, my son knows your friends' son from Lynden Christian.

[shezza]

Prosecution says, conditions were so unusual in San Diego, we've never seen anything like it before, that the bugs didn't go after the body. Mummification is a slow process, doesn't take place overnight. The bugs go not to the extremeties, where mummification starts, but to the orifices.

[shezza]

Bug reference is unexplainable by the prosecution. Flies are remarkably resistant to drought. (losing feed)

[Yeti]

I think all the objecting that Du-dick is doing makes him seem desperate and eager for the jury not to hear the other side of the case.

And the judge and Dusek seem to be working together to interrupt Feldman. It helps point out the picture of Mudd as part of the Prosecution.

Toward the end of his argument he should make some remark. Technically not contemptible, but unambiguously indignant.

[shezza]

Faulkner: This is their guy, and he needed to know, and he went to LE and he didn't get the answers. Was she covered? No. Was she moved? No. That's where the theory of the body in the compartment of the motorhome comes from, because prosecution knows they have a serious problem.

[shezza]

There are two reasonable interpretations, and that is why circumstantial evidence is so difficult.

[nycgal]

KOGO report someone has been shot outside of the courtroom. Gathering details right now.

[Eva]

I had to step over a dead body on the sidewalk in LA, once, and flys were already going in and out of the man's mouth.

[nycgal]

courtroom=courthouse. Sorry about that.

[shezza]

Please remember the testimony. Please remember the demeanor. Remember these men travel the world to give seminars to law enforcement to help them determine time of death.

Dusek's only theory on this is that she was mummified, laid there too long, then animals opened her up and flies came in. Hall said not only had he never heard about or read about such a case, it could not happen.

[shezza]

(Almost done, Feldman says)

[demsux]

damn rebuffering

[connectthedots]

Finding an attorney that is willing to take on the government is the hard part. Problem is, I have absolute proof and the Skamania Couty undersheriff doesn't want to be named as a defendant, and he knows I would do it in a heartbeat. He read some of the evidence and when he got the the part of the Clark County Sheriff's report of a Superior Court Judge committing perjury in a court proceeding, he realized that to not investigate or refer it to the feds would mean he was obstructing justice and hindering a criminal investigation.

Actually, this guy seemed interested in doing his job. I suggested that he simply investigate enough to justify getting the feds involved, but if the feds refused to investigate properly, he would have to do it himself..

As for state attorneys in Oregon, that may change once I pass the Oregon Bar exam in February. Plan on specializing in suing corrupt government officials.

[shezza]

I just want you to see this (chart of entomology dates)...Dusek will try to take it apart. He will try to discredit the expert witnesses.

What's the motive for a 55-year-old design engineer to do something like this? He's sitting for 2 hours in a room with a dog that doesn't bark and an alarm system that doesn't work in a strange house?

Third party: hair under body, blood on pajamas, blood on beanbag, fingerprints all over house, all unexplained and unidentified.