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Prosecutor: Westerfield Guilty 'Beyond Possible Doubt'(Many Still Find Van Dam's Culpable)
Court TV ^ | August 7, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 08/06/2002 8:53:49 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: shezza
In the motorhome, re: fibers. We all saw cuttings off of cloth off of virtually every single piece in the motorhome while looking for evidence of Danielle. They scoured that motorhome to look for a single fiber to say, "Common Source!" None! Zero. There was nothing similar to the body bag. They checked for trace, they looked for fiber evidence, they found nothing.

Faye Springer was brought down from Sacramento after they found the body. She wrote chapter in book about transfer and Locard principle...if too many cops are in the same spot, they get things mixed up. Transfer. LE is taught to wear items to reduce contamination.

Hair roots, argument made that only way to get roots is to pull it out. But you ladies know that when you remove a pony tail, you get roots.

Intensity of focus shifts; found DNA and fingerprint in motorhome. It's there. But can you tell me when it got there? No. HOw it got there? No. When it got there? No.

481 posted on 08/07/2002 1:37:05 PM PDT by shezza
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To: shezza
I belive it was possibly a juror that took that moment to ask Feldman to keep his voice level up. He said something like only in this courtroom would I get this request. But I'm not yelling at you. :o)
482 posted on 08/07/2002 1:37:52 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: Spunky
May I be helpful? You mean hypothesis ?
483 posted on 08/07/2002 1:38:13 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: shezza
Under Danielle's body was a 7cm hair that wasn't Danielle's. Crime scene had fingerprints that weren't identified. Cops say DAW had gigantic sweat rings on cold day. If somebody's sweating that much hiding in Danielle's bedroom, where's the DNA? Where's teh proof? Of course, there is none. Because he wasn't there.
484 posted on 08/07/2002 1:38:33 PM PDT by shezza
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To: bvw
The Smart girl is 14 and stands 5 ft 6 in, some 120 lbs!

As for Westerfield, I smell the collapse and demise of the so-called kiddie porn charges against him, which were ludicrous in the first place. I would think that 80% of male users of Internet under age 75 would have seen more porn than Dave. Dave would have had no idea at all he was in any danger of prosecution under kiddie porn statutes, and freely admitted officers to his home.

Dave is an ordinary upper-middle class 50-yr-old straight man, father of two, who has had the misfortune to be divorced twice by women he loved and trusted, one of which was the mother of his children. A California tragedy. He is so clearly a victim of leftist LE trying find a white straight male perp, that it is a wonder that is not charged outright!

485 posted on 08/07/2002 1:40:18 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: shezza
Locard exchange principle. Testimony about dancing. Experts say up to 500 fibers could be transferred during dancing. Thousands were collected, only a few were tested. Conclusions had to come out during cross-examination. Told jury 20 matched, but only tested 4 or 5. Could have come from a common source, could NOT have come from a common source.
486 posted on 08/07/2002 1:41:10 PM PDT by shezza
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To: shezza
HOw sure do you have to be before you make the decision to pull the plug? (Objection: penalty--statement about penalty stricken from record)
487 posted on 08/07/2002 1:42:13 PM PDT by shezza
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To: FresnoDA
In the July 26 issue of *National Enquirer* O.J.Simpson with the same hands rising expression. When I saw it I was immediately reminded of this pic of Bren-DA.

What does this prove? Inquiring mind wants to know. *grin*

488 posted on 08/07/2002 1:42:21 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: shezza
Exclusion of fiber around Danielle's neck...a bright fiber is different from a dull fiber, isn't it? Yes.
489 posted on 08/07/2002 1:44:32 PM PDT by shezza
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To: crystalk
Still possible to use a post-hole digger, depends on the soil. The holes I dug with my late-neighbor's bigger and better post hole digger for my fence would have been big enough for a body of that size. I know from how much cement I used in them.
490 posted on 08/07/2002 1:44:52 PM PDT by bvw
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To: shezza
Feldman says this is not in referance to the penalty it is a referance to point out how sure you have to be before you make a decision.
491 posted on 08/07/2002 1:45:08 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: shezza
Objection and sidebar, misstating evidence. I didn't catch the remark that led to that.
492 posted on 08/07/2002 1:45:12 PM PDT by shezza
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To: demsux
"It seems like feldi has been following these boards...just mentioned "grasping for straws/fibers"

I think his entire presentation has sounded like this board! LOL

It's quite possible, someone in Feldman's office reads these boards.


493 posted on 08/07/2002 1:45:32 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: shezza
Channel 10 commentators said Feldman is meandering and looks like a filibuster. (Didn't Dusek go even longer?)
494 posted on 08/07/2002 1:46:05 PM PDT by shezza
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To: demsux
This judge keeps interrupting/correcting Feldman. What's the dang deal?
495 posted on 08/07/2002 1:46:08 PM PDT by I. Ben Hurt
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To: BARLF
I still think there is at least a 50% chance that Brenda and DW had something going on at least once, and also I think there is about an 89% chance that the Demon was molesting his daughter on an ongoing basis.

The Demon was in S Fla, Dallas, San Diego, etc. when small bland-faced white perps were looked for unsuccessfully in child molestation and abduction cases. Victim, or perp?

496 posted on 08/07/2002 1:46:56 PM PDT by crystalk
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To: I. Ben Hurt
duhhhhhhsek said feldi was "misstating evidence"...and then feldi asked for a sidebar. What was the misstatement of evidence
497 posted on 08/07/2002 1:47:20 PM PDT by demsux
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To: shezza
Something about the exclusion of the fiber evidence.
498 posted on 08/07/2002 1:47:28 PM PDT by alexandria
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To: shezza
The objection was over the exclusion of the fiber in her necklace due to bright and dull orange
499 posted on 08/07/2002 1:48:02 PM PDT by Rheo
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To: shezza
There is a difference between a dull acrylic fiber and a bright orange fiber. There are two reasonable interpretations of the evidence.
500 posted on 08/07/2002 1:48:51 PM PDT by shezza
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