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Prosecutor: Westerfield Guilty 'Beyond Possible Doubt'(Many Still Find Van Dam's Culpable)
Court TV ^ | August 7, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 08/06/2002 8:53:49 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: shezza
Raymond was showed a photo of WEsterfield and a photo of Danielle Van Dam. He said, "I don't know them."
261 posted on 08/07/2002 10:33:20 AM PDT by shezza
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To: UCANSEE2
A simple search for files with *.avi or *.mpg would yield the files without digging through all the subfolders.
262 posted on 08/07/2002 10:34:12 AM PDT by ThinkingMan
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To: shezza
At Strand he parked in space #72 (Strand was "honor system)...there's a number of people close to him. I'm David Westerfield, I've got this kidnapped girl with me that the whole town is going crazy looking for, I'll go to this place where people know me in this large conspicuous vehicle, park here where I'm close to lots of people...

Wrote on envelope for payment his name, his vehicle license number, wrote time. Did what he was supposed to do, and suddenly it's sinister?

Going someplace to hide, to conceal and I'm going to the Strand?

263 posted on 08/07/2002 10:37:00 AM PDT by shezza
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To: shezza
David got out of vehicle and talked to Ranger for five or more minutes...talks to someone who could bust him...is that logical? Is that the only interpretation of the evidence? It's cold out, and although Mr. Dusek told you the sun was out, it was cold and windy. A number of the vehicles in their exhibit picture have their curtains pulled.
264 posted on 08/07/2002 10:38:16 AM PDT by shezza
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To: ThinkingMan; cyncooper
Exactly.

I used to use and train people in computer graphics and using CG software.

At my new job, I got bored, so I wanted to use one of the drawing softwares.

Well, it had a couple of sample pictures, but I wanted to find some better pictures to use.

So, I used the search facility all PC's have and searched the entire network for pictures with the proper file extension.

Well, I found many.

Point is, if you know what file extensions are used (and kids know) for image files, it is easy to search for them.

265 posted on 08/07/2002 10:39:03 AM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: Greg Weston
It sure doesn't add up to a half gram....It adds up to a ton or two. So heavy the defense doesn't even attempt to fight it. I guess they hope a juror or 2 will not notice.

  I hope you'll forgive me if I ignore the debate over how much the evidence weighs. I'm really not sure how to calibrate that measurement, in any event (the only thing that comes to mind is the weight of the paper submitted in evidence, in which case the ton or more figure is certainly closer to the truth than the 1/2 gram)

  However, if we look at what the evidence proves instead, we get a truly mixed picture. The evidence presented really is sufficient to prove contact between Westerfield and DVD. Of course, contact during the cookie sale, and then dancing with the mother, was either proven or stipulated by both sides.

  There is also sufficient evidence to prove that she had been inside the motor home. This is a critical question, when was she there? The defense says she had gotten in at some time in the past - uncertain as to when. The opportunity did exist, if Danielle occasionally wandered away from her parents' control (one reason the prosecution does not want to admit this, even if it makes the kidnapping scenario easier). Also, the relative paucity of evidence of her being in the motor home adds some credence to this. Nevertheless, the defense did very little to counter this - they didn't put up any actual evidence of when she was there, or have experts testify that lack of scent/fingerprints/etc indicates passage of time. If the jury believes it to have been recent, they are likely to convict.

  Finally, we have the blood/DNA evidence. I am placing this apart from simple contact, because that is how the prosecution is playing it. Now, I know my niece's consider skinned knees to be a vital fashion accessory, so I tend not to consider blood drops to be more than contact. If the prosecution wanted to prove this point, I think they would have needed to show a splatter pattern, which they failed to do because the police failed to follow procedure, and photographed it with a polaroid. Again, however, the defense offered little in the way of counter evidence or criticism on this. So, will the jury think the same way or not?

  As far as I can tell, this is pretty much the sum total of evidence the prosecution has presented. They talk about how his habits differed on this trip from others, and they speculate a lot about what might have happened, but don't present anything concrete. Is that a "ton" of evidence? Personally, I don't think so.

Drew Garrett

266 posted on 08/07/2002 10:39:11 AM PDT by agarrett
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To: shezza
What reason does Teresa Hastings have to lie about only getting 3-4 channels on her TV reception, and it was chilly?
267 posted on 08/07/2002 10:39:28 AM PDT by shezza
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To: shezza
Joyce and Jimmy Rogers by MH--Westerfield behaving normally...Joyce thought DAW was travelling and needed some rest.
268 posted on 08/07/2002 10:40:41 AM PDT by shezza
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To: UCANSEE2
"I am thinking of a blue sky green grass a shady place where I can feel safe."

These are the last words as written Feb. 1, 2002 in her personal silver metallic journal/diary. (Hidden behind some book shelves)

Honey, God picked you up in his strong, loving arms, wrapped them around your little body, and took you "HOME" to his house. May you always have blue sky, green grass and a shady place, and may you be filled with the glory of LOVE. Because His Perfect Love, casts out fear.

You NOW know the peace that surpasses all understanding, Danielle.

269 posted on 08/07/2002 10:40:58 AM PDT by Neenah
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To: shezza
Ranger--re: honor system at park, "David behaved honorably."

The guy goes inside and rests. I don't know what your personal life is like, but I sure remember getting dumped. You're all alone, misery, grief over the loss of your relationship. Emotionally, it's rational to a jury to think he goes inside and rests.

270 posted on 08/07/2002 10:42:20 AM PDT by shezza
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To: John Jamieson
John, I seem to recall that when I download attachments, they tend to take themselves to My Documents, and then into a folder. If I'm using folders, though, and download, it'll put itself into the folder or subfolder that I'm working in.

I've always figured that's how some of that stuff got filed on dw's computer.
271 posted on 08/07/2002 10:42:38 AM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Neenah
I can not fathom why a normal healthy 7 year old child would write such a thing - unless her poor little life was not normal or healthy...
272 posted on 08/07/2002 10:42:39 AM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: shezza
"A number of the vehicles in their exhibit picture have their curtains pulled."

Something Dusek failed to mention(?) BUSTED!!

Feldman is making a lot of common sense & logic.

273 posted on 08/07/2002 10:42:47 AM PDT by the Deejay
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To: Neenah
Did you just finish the MCF site? Isn't it chilling? Your post is beautiful
274 posted on 08/07/2002 10:42:52 AM PDT by Jacy29
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To: agarrett
Thoughtful post Drew...BTTT...
275 posted on 08/07/2002 10:43:08 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: CAPPSMADNESS
Welcome to Club CB Logoalt

276 posted on 08/07/2002 10:44:13 AM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: shezza
Directions he gave to girlfriend, could be many years ago, to get to Glamis were different from the route he took. Wash 4. Another girlfriend, an adult female. They seized on a piece of evidence, took it out of context, gave it a sinister spin.

Another witness said he closed the windows, had long-sleeved shirt on, knew cell-phones didn't work. Said DAW was trying to dig his MH out of the dirt. (Fuzzy feed...please correct any hearing mistakes I'm making.)

277 posted on 08/07/2002 10:44:32 AM PDT by shezza
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To: Neenah
"I am thinking of a blue sky green grass a shady place where I can feel safe."

I worked for a short time running a primary child abuse prevention program for the Marine Corps. Statements like that were considered immediate red flags. Safe from what? Or whom?

278 posted on 08/07/2002 10:44:42 AM PDT by Mrs.Liberty
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To: FresnoDA
I will never be able to watch Toy Story again...... :(
279 posted on 08/07/2002 10:45:45 AM PDT by CAPPSMADNESS
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To: shezza
Who would expect that someone would be out there with a video camera? But someone actually captured him and how deep it was. He had a shovel. That shovel that counsel is going to argue to you was going to be used to bury somebody. Usual or unusual? The answer, usual. Everyone who was out there said it was NOT unusual to get stuck and use a shovel.
280 posted on 08/07/2002 10:45:52 AM PDT by shezza
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