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Frustrated Prosecutor Dusek Swats At Final Bug Expert: Westerfield's Soon Will BUG The Jury....
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| August 2, 2002
| Harriet Ryan
Posted on 08/01/2002 10:25:00 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: John Jamieson
Remember Dusek was paying the bills and asking the questions. Never forgot it.
John, you're an eng. every client asks you to
doit cheap.
doit right.
doit myway.
I think Goff tried myway first, but on cross-exam he got forced to "doit right".
To: dread78645
I always tell them they can have two out of three.
To: John Jamieson
I always tell them they can have two out of three. Yep, one of the truths.
I still think Goff hurt the profession.
Pillow time, good nite all !
To: dread78645
Maybe Neil has watched "Witness for the Prosecution" lately, and decided to take the risk that they would not prosecute for perjury. He would get the prosecution off his back, and trade embarrassing himself for maybe saving his father when Feldman exposes his lie.
Feldman was obliging in that.
FWIW, I don't Barbara will publish any book. There is no statute of limitation on murder. If she came out with info different from what she told the cops, or that she managed to withhold from the cops, she's toast.
I do wonder what the boys have heard/seen. Wonder if the older one might talk sometime soon after his 18th birthday.
Great clarity on the bug stuff, John. I knew you'd explain it all for us. :-)
To: cyncooper
Who is the witness and date of testimony, shezza?Witness: That wacky and zany 180-Frank, a.k.a. Jim Frazee
Date of testimony: June 26
Date testimony is discussing: February 6 (police impound lot)
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posted on
08/03/2002 5:49:54 AM PDT
by
shezza
To: John Jamieson
John, Fres posted a bunch of articles on that sometime recently.
Fres, can you repost or point us to those? Yeah, Damon looks even creepier and meaner re his maddogging DW when you look at this sort of behavior.
I enjoyed reading these last couple of pages immensely, you guys. thanks for letting us wander into such an interesting conversation.
To: truth_seeker
Here are a couple of examples of Mr. Goldman and why I called him a Golddigger.
This is from a CTV chat with Denise Brown.
"tinachris00 asks: Are you still in contact with the Goldmans? "
"Denise Brown: No, we don't keep in touch with the Goldman's. After the civil trial, Fred Goldman slapped a $22 million lawsuit on my family thinking we were hiding the Heisman trophy. No, we don't speak to them."
LOS ANGELES (CNN)-- Attorneys for Fred Goldman are asking a judge to order O.J. Simpson to turn over financial information, including any profits he has made since the murders of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ronald Goldman on June 12, 1994.
The motion claims that information on Simpson's profits is needed "to establish the proper amount of punitive damages" the Goldmans will seek in their civil suit charging Simpson with wrongful death. It states that "punitive damages are appropriate in this case to punish, and to make an example of [Simpson].
This is from an E-online article. July 11, 1997
"O.J.'s showbiz career might be over but Fred Goldman's is just beginning. Simpson's nemesis not only gets a shot as a radio talk show host later this month, but could also appear on a live pay-per-view special to melt O.J.'s beloved Heisman.
Goldman, who once said he'd love to smash the $400,000 trophy to bits with a sledgehammer, has been offered a million bucks to liquefy the statue, his lawyer said this week. During an interview Tuesday on CNBC's Rivera Live, Daniel Petrocelli told a stunned Geraldo Rivera that a promoter--whom he wouldn't identify--thought the trophy trashing would make good TV.
"We've received...a bona fide offer which we have checked into and have verified that this promoter will pay $1 million to broadcast on a pay-per-view basis the Heisman trophy being melted," Petrocelli said. (Imagine the sequel, in which Goldman chomps off O.J.'s ear...)
His failed radio show and T. V. Show.
"His Name Is Ron" Book writting by Mr. Goldman.
Also included in the Golddigger comment is Ron Goldmans mother Sharon Ruffo, who filed her own lawsuit against OJ, eventhough she hadn't seen or talked to her son in 14 years.
Maybe Fred Goldman has tried to do some good, but it is clear he tried to profit from the death of his son
One of the Jurors Anise Aschenback, a white juror has said that she thought OJ did it but the prosecution failed to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
It is the fault of the prosecution that OJ was aquitted!!
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posted on
08/03/2002 6:03:13 AM PDT
by
gigi
To: gigi
Enough of OJ!!!
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posted on
08/03/2002 6:06:07 AM PDT
by
gigi
To: pinz-n-needlez
Hi pinz...what are you looking for, repost wise?
To: gigi
KENNETH MA
Staff WriterSABRE SPRINGS ---- An optimistic Damon van Dam spent more than eight hours Saturday meticulously searching barren desert dunes and posting fliers at small businesses throughout east San Diego and Imperial counties in the hope of finding his missing 7-year-old daughter.
A search team from the San Diego County Sheriff's Department will look for Danielle van Dam in an area of Poway today.
On Saturday, shortly after dawn and well into the twilight hours, Damon van Dam and a high school friend drove a blue van across large sections of sun-dappled desert in areas such as Glamis, Ocotillo, Borrego Springs and Brawley. They handed out scores of fliers seeking help in finding Danielle, a Creekside Elementary second-grader who police say was last seen by her father Feb. 1 when he tucked her into bed at the family's home on Mountain Pass Road.
Police have said they believe the girl was abducted and that detectives have focused their investigation on a neighbor who lives two houses away. No arrests have been made, nor have any signs of Danielle surfaced.
Meanwhile, nearly 170 volunteers from the Danielle Recovery Center spent the day scouring the same desert locations for clues into Danielle's disappearance, coordinators said. The search efforts were being orchestrated from several locations, including the Glamis Beach Store, the Ocotillo Volunteer Fire Department and Christmas Circle in Borrego Springs.
"Although we are searching out here in the desert areas, I don't want people to stop searching San Diego," said Damon van Dam, who also spent part of Saturday recruiting more people to help search for his daughter.
Members of the San Diego County Sheriff's Search and Rescue Team will search a northern area of Poway close to the van Dams' Sabre Springs home today, police officials said Friday.
The region, bordered by Espola and Poway roads, has not been searched, and police said last week that they have information that a search in that vicinity will be useful. They have not said why they waited until today to search that area and San Diego police Capt. Ron Newman declined to comment further on the planned search.
Van Dam advised not to search
Damon van Dam was advised by police not to search the desert himself because crucial evidence discovered may be tainted as a result of his involvement with the case, his wife Brenda, 39, said Friday.
But Damon van Dam said Saturday he was traversing the desert with information about Danielle because it was an opportune time to reach throngs of people who are in the desert for the three-day Presidents Day weekend.
A neighbor of the van Dams, David Westerfield, 49, told reporters and police that he was in the desert the weekend Danielle disappeared. The neighbor has been questioned repeatedly by police, and investigators have impounded his motor home and taken several items from his house for analysis, police have said.
Volunteers dwindle
The number of volunteer searchers Saturday had dwindled substantially since last weekend, when the Danielle Recovery Center was established at the Double Tree Golf Resort in Carmel Mountain Ranch, coordinators said.
About 170 people are searching this weekend, a little more than half of the center's goal of 300 searchers. Last weekend, more than 400 searchers participated in the hunt.
"We are at the mercy of whoever walks through our doors," said Fiona Oberrick, a deputy director of the center. "We are so grateful for all of the selfless generosity of the hundreds of volunteers and donations from local businesses."
Oberrick said people returning to work last Monday and those with travel plans this weekend contributed to the decline in the number of searchers.
Marc Klaas, founder of the Polly Klaas Foundation, said the public may lose interest in the case if media coverage gradually declines.
Klaas said he believes people will be sympathetic to Danielle's disappearance and want to help if they see the little girl's face in the media frequently.
"We need to create an effort to encourage people to come back on a regular basis (to volunteer)", said Klaas whose 12-year-old daughter, Polly Hannah Klaas, was kidnapped from her Petaluma home in 1993 and later found murdered.
Those wishing to volunteer in the search for Danielle can call (858) 485-4185. Anyone with information about the case can call San Diego police at (619) 531-2000 or speak anonymously to Crime Stoppers at (619) 235-TIPS.
Contact staff writer Kenneth Ma at (760) 740-3524 or kma@nctimes.com.
2/17/02
To: shezza
AP Photo/Dan Trevan
Damon van Dam, father of Danielle van Dam, testifies during David Westerfield's murder trial in San Diego court, Wednesday, June 5. David Westerfield is accused of the kidnapping and murder of 7-year old Danielle van Dam from her home in February.
Van Dam also raised concern when he asked detailed questions about how deputies transported Westerfield to and from the courtroom, said Sheriff's Deputy C.K. McKenzie.
"That raises a bunch of red flags. It suggests he might try to do something," said McKenzie, one of several deputies providing security for the high-profile trial.
Van Dam and his wife, Brenda, have been a constant presence in the courtroom since they finished testifying early in the proceedings about their daughter's disappearance.
Westerfield, 50, is charged with murder, kidnapping and possession of child pornography. He could face the death penalty if he's convicted.
Throughout the trial, the van Dams could be seen glaring at Westerfield, a twice-divorced engineer who lived two doors away from the couple until his arrest in February.
Danielle was reported missing from her bedroom on Feb. 2. Searchers involved in a massive volunteer recovery effort found her nude body on Feb. 27 along a rural roadside east of the San Diego suburb of El Cajon.
Brenda van Dam, who was not barred from the trial, said she was unable to comment, citing the judge's gag on all parties involved in the case.
To: gigi
To: FresnoDA; John Jamieson
That's it! Thank you, Fres.
John have you read this article before? It puts Damon in the area about the time most bugsperts agree the flies arrived, in an orange vest (probably just coincidence) against le advice (nobody tells Damon what to do!) with an old, loyal friend.
Why is it that dw has no history of odd, weird, scary behavior, but DVD is being a cold, devious, sneaky bastard ALL THE TIME. I know it's not cause and affect, but it can't be unrelated completely, imo.
To: pinz-n-needlez
Glad to help...check out the new article on next thread..wow...
To: FresnoDA
Well, so Feldman has used this defense before....What a surprise!
Thank you for your great coverage Fresno...Let's see if the jury can pull the right decision out of it's collective hat...
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posted on
08/03/2002 6:56:09 AM PDT
by
KLT
To: FresnoDA
Interesting read. My head hurts reading this stuff anymore, though. :-/
Haven't these people ever learned to have a conversation? Are they incapable of talking about the weather or reading a good book????
These folks sound like they are stuck in their teens, still obsessed with immature sex thirty years later! Good grief. No wonder we never found the national will to punish Clinton for his infantile behavior in the White House.
On the other hand, it's heartening to type to interesting, passionate, funny and intelligient fellow freepers and believe that maybe there IS hope for the world.
You've enlightened us more than some of us wanted, Fres. LOL But you're darn funny, too. Thanks. :-)
To: John Jamieson
Here is the testimony from Hall where Dusek gets him to "agree" with an early Feb. date (at least using Dusek's assumptions). Hall does say not agree that he should have used the data, but the jury heard the early Feb. date from him....
Q KAMAL'S DATA IT TAKES NINE DAYS OR SO TO GET FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF THIRD INSTAR, CORRECT?
A THAT'S CORRECT.
Q AND ANDERSON IT TAKES APPROXIMATELY NINE DAYS TO GET FROM THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF THIRD INSTAR, WOULDN'T IT?
A THAT'S WHAT THE DATA REFLECT, YES, SIR.
Q AND IF WE TAKE NINE DAYS, GO BACK NINE MORE DAYS FROM FEBRUARY 13TH, WHAT DO WE GET TO?
A YOU GET TO ABOUT THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY.
Q WHICH MEANS IF WE HAVE MAGGOTS TOWARDS THE END OF THE THIRD INSTAR, THEY COULD HAVE BEEN LAID THERE THE BEGINNING OF FEBRUARY, CORRECT?
A IF YOU ARE GOING TO RELY SOLELY ON ANDERSON'S DATA.
Q WHAT DATE WOULD THAT BE IN THE FIRST PART OF FEBRUARY?
A IT WOULD BE AROUND THE FIRST OF THE MONTH IF YOU WERE GOING TO RELY ON THAT DATA, SIR.
Q AND YOU PREPARED DATA ON ALL OF THESE TEMPERATURES, DIDN'T YOU?
A I WENT THROUGH KAMAL, GREENBURG, AND ANDERSON.
Q YOU CHOSE NOT TO COMPUTE THAT EXITING THE THIRD INSTAR FOR ANDERSON, DIDN'T YOU?
A THAT'S CORRECT.
Q EVEN THOUGH YOU KNEW IT WOULD GET YOU BACK TO THE FIRST OF FEBRUARY?
A NO.
Q WHERE DID YOU THINK IT WOULD GET YOU?
A I REALLY DIDN'T -- I REALLY DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT.
Q WHY DIDN'T YOU TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHEN THE EXITING THE THIRD INSTAR UNDER ANDERSON'S DATA WHICH USES TEMPERATURES IN THE 60-DEGREE OR 61-DEGREE RANGE?
A WELL, I'VE ALREADY TOLD YOU WITH THE PHORMIA REGINA I CALCULATED THAT IT WOULD REQUIRE AT 16.1 DEGREES ABOUT 93.4 ACCUMULATED DEGREE DAYS AT A BASE 10, AND AT 23 DEGREES HER DATA WOULD REFLECT 103.8 ACCUMULATED DEGREE DAYS AT BASE 10. AND THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF THERMAL ENERGY AVAILABLE AT SINGING HILLS WAS 86.9. SO WITH ANDERSON'S DATA SET THERE WAS INSUFFICIENT ENERGY FOR THE FLIES TO GET OUT OF THE THIRD INSTAR.
To: clearvision
Dusek either doesn't understand, or pretends NOT to understand the difference between DAYS and DEGREE-DAYS. 9 day peroids differ trememdously on what the temperature was on those 9 days. NOT ALL 9 DAYS ARE EQUAL.
I think Dusek's purpose was to purposely confuse the TV talking heads, which he surely accomplished. Even an average jury has a higher IQ and pays more attention than they do.
To: pinz-n-needlez
Hee Hee...thanks, (I Think!!)
To: juzcuz
From the beginning I looked at this case as a giant puzzle that could be solved.The main problem of viewing this as a puzzle is that it is not one puzzle, but 20 puzzles all tossed into one big box; and the box doesn't have a picture on the top showing what the puzzle is.
Everyone who attempts to puts the pieces together sees a different picture, and every time you connect two pieces and form a clearer picture another player comes along and tries to steal one of your connected pieces. LOL
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