Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!

Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

[FresnoDA]

OK...VRWCminion...I apologize...

[clearvision]

Yeah, there was alot of discussion about mean, median and average for temperature data with a single high and low per day. Also Goth calculated hourly data based on average of these two points, so new guy said that was not right way to do it.

[VRWC_minion]

The original testimony was that there was no difference between mean and median. It is possible that his answer was to the result and not to the concept but that wasn't how I heard it.

[John Jamieson]

Dusek really blew it on what the dates mean, but this guy straightened him back out. Feldman knows alot more about this subject than Dusek does. Dusek is way over his head, because he just doesn't understand the basic consepts. It's cost him bad. He has paid for two experts so far that have screwed him, because he didn't understand what they were going to say.

[John Jamieson]

I have the same problem! No spelling (or typing) classes required for my degree.

[UCANSEE2]

I'm looking for the search dogs and MH info.

I don't know exactly where that is at.

My recollection (which doesn't mean poop) is that they took the dogs inside the MH and they had no reaction. They took them inside several times with no reaction.

OH, trial back on.

[UCANSEE2]

ROUND OF APPLAUSE !@!!!!!!!

[theirjustdue]

"Lawyers defend robbers,killers, and rapists. Does that mean they rob/kill/rape (well, outside of court)?"

That's an excellent point, UCANSEE, IMO.

I responded to Kim on the same subject, many threads ago, that it has no bearing on this case, what Feldman does, on his own time. Unless he's arrested and can't make it to court, it's not relevant to this case, if he's the biggest pothead in S.D. County. All that matters, is he's recognized by his peers, as one of the best defense attorneys in S. Cal.

I see Kim is still throwing it out though. This, as it was when I expressed it before, to Kim, is JMO.

[alexandria]

Dusek is way over his head, because he just doesn't understand the basic consepts.

Dosen't understand poop about post death bodily functions either.

[the-gooroo]

I is here--trying to catch up.

[FresnoDA]

LOL

Ok, thanks Bass...VRWC...apology withdrawn....

Humph....

[John Jamieson]

If he said that he was wrong.

But he right about the NONE smooth temperature flucuations during the day. The battle was over to use the crummy data from the closest weather site or to use the better data from a further site.

Atleast the last two guys used both sets of data, and determined that there was no significant differences in the final result.

All of the bugsperts have concluded that DW could not have dumped the body. Of course, he could have had an accomplise, but that's not the prosecution's theory of the case.

[UCANSEE2]

YEAH, but are they median bugs, or just plain old mean bugs?

[John Jamieson]

Thinking about it more. If you only have a max and a min temperature for each day, you can have a mean (average) temperature, but the median could be any number inbetween and therefore would be undefined. So there.

[John Jamieson]

Sounds like the bugspert said they had to be the same because he only had two data points.....a special case. Maybe he was right!

[kayti]

JJ - is that an attempt to further confuse our feeble minds? I REALLY struggled with Dusucks questions today.

[alexandria]

but that's not the prosecution's theory of the case.

From what I'm understanding about jury instructions (per SignOnSD site) are they tying in kidnapping, murder, and dumping the body?
If this is so then if jury decides he's not guilty of the kidnapping he can't be guilty of rest?
This would be a big plus because the Pros. case is weak for kidnapping and really weak that he was the one who dumped body.

[John Jamieson]

I thought I was clearing things up, LOL.

[calawah98]

Was any one listening to RR during the afternoon break?
A caller was telling him, the only way you would get an exact temp, would to have a thermometer there every minute of the day. My feed is so bad could'nt get much of what was being said, but would sure like to know what all was said and who this guy was. Said the media was blurring the facts, and the defense has proved that DW could not have dumped the body.