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Prosecution's Bug Expert Struggles On Stand:08/01/2002 Westefield Trial Nears Finish Lap!
Court TV ^ | August 1, 2002 | Harriet Ryan

Posted on 07/31/2002 9:20:15 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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To: truth_seeker
So if a juror decides to effectively ignore bug science, it is reasonable.

Disagree...Despite all the smoke and fog thrown out by the prosecution, all four bug guys basically agree. Their best start dates for bug activity range from 9 Feb to 16 Feb. This should not be ignored.

481 posted on 08/01/2002 12:34:14 PM PDT by bolthead
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To: alexandria
He is asking the questions in a way that the witness has no choice but to answer one way to (even though by doing so implies/infers something totally incorrect) which is why the witness is balking and may seem to be dodging the question.

The witness should probably try answering as Dusak is insisting (hard as that might be) and trust Feldman to redirect and expose Dusak's attempt at dumbing down the jury.

I think Dusek had this guy frustrated for a while until Hall caught on to his little game. Dusek has been trying to get tis guy to answer 'yes' to questions that are designed to misrepresent the facts and the opinon of this witness. Once Hall figured out what Dusek was doing, he started answering with 'no', 'not really', or 'not necessarily', which forced Duselk to ask 'why?' or 'why not? Then Hall could give a complete answer that would not mislead the jury or the facts. Once Hall figured this out, his frustration with Dusek's tactics vanished and now he seems to enjoying his exchanges and making Dusek look stupid. It is now so bad for Dusek that there is even occasional laughter at Dusek's feeble attempts to make his points.

482 posted on 08/01/2002 12:34:38 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: kayti
Yes Kayti! I'd sure like to hear from that source. It would certainly contradict all those whose first post is a relief to finally post and talk in peace. Plus those who are talking about leaving FR or stopping funding of FR, because of it.
483 posted on 08/01/2002 12:35:33 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: connectthedots
Once Hall figured this out, his frustration with Dusek's tactics vanished and now he seems to enjoying his exchanges and making Dusek look stupid. It is now so bad for Dusek that there is even occasional laughter at Dusek's feeble attempts to make his points.

Bingorooney !!!! They seem to be laughing at the Doof; not with him.

484 posted on 08/01/2002 12:36:57 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
You're right... just like Dusuck... when you don't have the facts in your favor... make up a story that will fit your premise.
485 posted on 08/01/2002 12:36:59 PM PDT by kayti
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To: bolthead
Correction: Their best start minimum dates for bug activity range from 9 Feb to 16 Feb. This should not be ignored.
486 posted on 08/01/2002 12:41:29 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: kayti
Come on Kayti lets go back to the "Intellectual discussion" No need to post here just lurk!
487 posted on 08/01/2002 12:41:33 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: kayti
Hey, if my source is incorrect and you guys have over 100 people posting over there on even a semi-regular basis..more power to ya! That's awesome..really.
488 posted on 08/01/2002 12:42:00 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: redlipstick
Have you noticed how many of the people on UCANSEE2's ping list never come onto these threads?

just for the record, i am on the ping list and i come to the threads everyday--i hardly ever post, though, unless i feel i have something important to add (these threads are long enough!) oh- and PS, i love the parodies--keep 'em coming!

489 posted on 08/01/2002 12:44:19 PM PDT by Tiger28
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
your 'source' IS incorrect.
490 posted on 08/01/2002 12:44:22 PM PDT by kayti
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
The witness had early replied he had never seen/heard of evidence that mummification like this would impact access to body. Only when Dusek narrowed him down with selective questioning to personal observations did he then have to admit he had not (to personal observation). An expert would be familiar with many other cases and research in the field and rely on personal observation. Those fiber and DNA experts are in trouble if they have to personally observe a similar case before to make they can state there expert opinion.

491 posted on 08/01/2002 12:44:36 PM PDT by clearvision
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To: kayti
so almost a hundred people post over there? That's incredible!!
492 posted on 08/01/2002 12:46:02 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: hoosiermama
okay, mama, i'll come home now... glad you found me. How could I have gotten out exploring on my own? That is how we all get into trouble.
493 posted on 08/01/2002 12:46:48 PM PDT by kayti
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To: hoosiermama; All
Oh heck...I don't know what the big deal is? For those who don't know what FR Refugee is, it's just a little refugee site, that FReepers who want to discuss the case without a bunch of flames can go and have a nice, polite exchange of ideas about the trial. We even have a few laughs and giggles and a few who are on the Prosecutions side...believe it or not.

We may have a person or two that have left FR for whatever reason, but it is PRO Free Republic and our first alligance is to FR and it's founder, Jim Robinson..and anyone who tries to imply differently is very wrong.

sw

494 posted on 08/01/2002 12:48:07 PM PDT by spectre
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To: kayti
kayti, kayti, kayti--was Brenda supposed to be watching you? ;o)
495 posted on 08/01/2002 12:48:35 PM PDT by shezza
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~

I was told that a lot of folks aren't posting there too..they just wanted to lurk there AS WELL as here.

Oh contraire' Quasi-Admin poster....we have an undefeatable ANTITHREADJACKAL system...

Some have tried, but none have penetrated the Refugee Defense system...../Hugz-Kizez


496 posted on 08/01/2002 12:48:50 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: kayti
Always swim with a partner Kayti. Promise me never to go out alone again :)
497 posted on 08/01/2002 12:48:57 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Yeppers, it's a fact!!
498 posted on 08/01/2002 12:49:04 PM PDT by Karson
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To: VRWC_minion
Sorry it took so long.

Not familiar with the distance involved

Can't find ,so far, the exact figure. Memory says the trail was 80-90 feet.

but my assumption was that any dragging would have been from pulling the orange blanket out from under her.

What orange blanket? Where is this blanket? Is it with my briefcase that has $1,000,000 in it ?

I also would put more weight on her being dumped within 24 hours of her abduction Based on what, in particular? no signs on the body that it was eslwhere.

What would be signs that it was elsewhere? Low bug activity, high degree of mummification?

499 posted on 08/01/2002 12:49:05 PM PDT by UCANSEE2
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To: UCANSEE2
Um, I think that briefcase has MY initials on it.
500 posted on 08/01/2002 12:50:26 PM PDT by shezza
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