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Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..
Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

Posted on 07/30/2002 3:58:51 PM PDT by FresnoDA

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I know this is a dumb question for the old hands but I just read Westerfields jacket had orange lining. Those fibers were checked right ?
321 posted on 07/31/2002 2:05:49 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: UCANSEE2; John Jamieson; ItsOurTimeNow
Just did a quick Photoshop experiment - I adjusted the color to make the backgrounds match, and the fiber on the right turns a yellowish-light-orange. Good call to whichever of you said light yellow-orange, 'cuz that's exactly the way it turned out.
322 posted on 07/31/2002 2:09:03 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I can't find it in the Redden transcript.
323 posted on 07/31/2002 2:09:44 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: small_l_libertarian
You are the WINNER.
324 posted on 07/31/2002 2:11:42 PM PDT by Jaded
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To: VRWC_minion
http://community-2.webtv.net/westri/WesterfieldTrial/

The above link has some pictures of the jacket. The lining appears more tan-brown to me, but it could be orange.
325 posted on 07/31/2002 2:13:26 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: small_l_libertarian
Sweet! WE may be on to something here...but who would listen to us?
326 posted on 07/31/2002 2:15:21 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: small_l_libertarian
16 A. I noted discoloration that were stains.

17 Q. All right. First of all, the jacket itself, can

18 you describe it for us, please?

19 A. It is a green and blue jacket, predominantly

20 green. Blue on the neck, collar and some of the back areas

21 of the jacket, along with some zipper buttons, as well as

22 an orange inside area.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/danielle/transcripts/20020312-9999-afternoonprelim.html>Link</A>
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327 posted on 07/31/2002 2:16:32 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Do you remember whether or not the jury heard dw say he downloaded the child porn?

No! That was certainly not played for the jury. What you are referring to was in pre-trial hearings and I just know of it from Valpal1 posting it.

328 posted on 07/31/2002 2:17:02 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: small_l_libertarian
no, I agree with you, it's more of a rusty tan/brown color.

Think anyone in the jury is astute enough to see the fiber background difference?

QUICK! Get Mudd on the phone...we need to tell him about this, post-haste!
329 posted on 07/31/2002 2:17:36 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: small_l_libertarian
Right. It's not orange, more brownish/rust.
330 posted on 07/31/2002 2:17:46 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: ItsOurTimeNow
Please see 327 regarding orange inside the jacket.
331 posted on 07/31/2002 2:20:17 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: the Deejay
Please see 327.
332 posted on 07/31/2002 2:20:44 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
Whomever's testimony that was, is *colorblind.*
333 posted on 07/31/2002 2:24:09 PM PDT by the Deejay
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To: demsux
Your post #288 is exactly what I think. Any sincerely frightened and worried parent would put his very life at risk to find his child.

The van Dam behavior was suspicious from minute one and remains so today, IMO.

I sat with my husband last night and went over the whole story trying to see if I could construct a way that DW could have done this. I couldn't.

Discussing the case from those first moments brought all the suspicions of Damon and Brenda flooding back into my mind.

An enormous red flag was hoisted from the get-go when the parents were cleared in record time......unheard of in missing child cases. I knew then, that solving this crime was not going to be typical and a distrust was planted at that time. I did not realize then how accurate my hunch would turn out to be.

334 posted on 07/31/2002 2:24:36 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: the Deejay
I have to agree. He says it's "orange," but at best, it's burnt orange or rust. Not bright orange like the fibers in question.
335 posted on 07/31/2002 2:26:46 PM PDT by small_l_libertarian
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To: small_l_libertarian
If these two fibers are of the same magnification, they are NOT a match. Most apparent to me is the one on the right has a larger diameter. This is so obvious.

Why is the background color different? That can play an optical illusion with color in the foreground.
336 posted on 07/31/2002 2:27:36 PM PDT by Bluebird Singing
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
My thoughts from the get-go...exactly.

Compare DVD and BVD's on-camera "grief" to the tears and emotion of Samantha Runnions mom.
337 posted on 07/31/2002 2:28:25 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: Bluebird Singing
Exactly...but I'm still forced to wonder why not a single soul in the court room has made mention of this?
338 posted on 07/31/2002 2:29:26 PM PDT by ItsOurTimeNow
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To: small_l_libertarian
So, I gather the fiber lady never mentioned it.
339 posted on 07/31/2002 2:29:43 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: small_l_libertarian
The color being orange isn't even close to being debateable.
It's not the bright orange similar to the necklace fibers.
340 posted on 07/31/2002 2:32:28 PM PDT by the Deejay
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