Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..

Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

[UCANSEE2]

It was obviously planned,

But, the question that remains is was DW on the planned trip, or had he changed plans?

According to his statement he changed his plans several times that weekend. So, which part was his statement to police referring to? The original plan, or his decision to just pick up and go (from the beach) to pick up and go (from the desert)?

[Jaded]

I check. He said spur of the moment. Which as I said could mean a couple of things. But the fact remains David Westerfield LIED to Paul Redden..... so based on that we must burn him at the stake!! Now, before Dusek spends hundreds of thousands more of the taxpayers hard earned pennies. This time we don't care what Feldi says. Okay? Over run the SD County jail... give Nancy Grace something new to talk about.

/so

I think the on again off again trip prolly had to do with Neal's plans or someone else's plans.

[Freedom2specul8]

Which link or article are you referring to? Are you talking about this sentence? The way i quickly read it the first time, I thought they said the blue fibers were picture on the right.

"Of the blue fibers, Shen (pictured, right) said 19 were found around Danielle's body and 10 were discovered in the defendant's laundry"

[ItsOurTimeNow]

Not to mention that the one on the right is set against a darker background, which would give the fiber itself the appearance of being darker.

I think we're looking at two completely different fibers here. One medium orange, and one light orange/dark yellow.

[UCANSEE2]

Kim. I looked at the pictures you linked to.

I am not a fiber expert. So my opinion might not mean much,but, first,other than what appears to be the same color and the fact they are fiber shaped, I see nothing similar about them.

Second, if you notice the background in each is a different color, that means that the colors of the fibers are actually different. If the picture is corrected to make the backgrouds come out the same, then the fibers will be different.

If it is because the backgrounds actually were a different color, then that throws the whole comparison ability out the window.

[cyncooper]

I have noticed that page thing at Court TV. Not sure if they posted it the second time *instead of* another page, or if they simply posted it twice. Hmmmmmmmmm

[UCANSEE2]

Just a spoof..ha, ha..

I know. I thought it was a classic summation of the CTV NANCY GRACE mindset. Not yours. NOWAY!

[demsux]

If your daughter were "missing" why would you withhold ANY information from LE?

1. Fear of arrest for drug usage?

2. Fear of public humilation for sexual perversion?

3. Involvement in child's disappearance?

4. Fear of/protection of/from drug supplier and/or sexual playmate?

5. "Not thinking it was important", although LE had told them MULTIPLE times that it was important.

The only one that makes sense is number 3. None of the others makes any sense.

If it were my daughter, I would name every individual that had entered my home (sex or no sex, adultery is not against the law). I would tell LE the truth regarding drug usage...if they want to arrest me on that, then have at it...I'd pay my fine and tell them to get off their asses and find my daughter.

Nope, Damon put blinders on LE from the start, and, unfortunately, LE left those blinders on.

[Freedom2specul8]

I will tell you this, had I not forgotten the page of transcript was missing, I wouldn't have even brought it up..I had discovered it missing previously when we were trying to figure out what he said about the weather at the beach. Bringing up a point without knowing exactly what was said and like you said the context it was in is impossible to figure out.

Cyncooper, is this just the portion of transcript that was revealed to the jury? Is that why it's not complete?

[small_l_libertarian]

I didn't even think about the background color making the fiber color appear different. That kind of defeats the purpose of comparing the two, doesn't it? I want to see both of them on the same background.

[ItsOurTimeNow]

Their motive from the start was to deflect attention from their perverse and negligent lifestyle. Even after the "rumors" started, they were saying, "It's not important", "It's not relevant", "Let's just focus on Danielle.", etc.

If it's not important or relevant...why try to hide it?

[cyncooper]

THIS is the reason, I believe, for the major differences in opinion that we have.

I believe when the MEDIA hype comes out and says something (especially during this case) you can assume they took it out of context to make the MOST out of it.

With all due respect, I am sick and tired of this angle.

Believe me, I do not have a high opinion of the media. I have been watching the trial and form my own opinion. Sometimes I hear my observation and opinion echoed or mirrored in the media in this particular case. So does the other side.

You need to accept that some viewers of the trial see it the way they do because of the evidence, not because the media told them to think a certain way.

[Freedom2specul8]

Remembering my MINIMAL experiences in science..(please don't ask questions about THAT) I have to wonder if there was dye used on the fibers for better viewing..and if the pigmentation in the dye was more concentrated on one fiber example and lighter in concentration on the other.

[HoneyBoo]

Why hasn't feldman brought up Bill Libby? He promised he would. What's going on there? Can he be a rebuttal witness?

[UCANSEE2]

Also notice the backgrounds are different.

If the fibers were placed on the same background (which One would assume), then it means someone tried to falsify the photos by one of two methods (1)filter on camera or (2)during processing of film.

If the backgrounds are different, same thing really. You cannot do an accurate color comparison with different colored backgrounds.

[countess]

So many golden comments, so little bandwidth.

[Freedom2specul8]

I'd rather not see that used...use this one instead.

http://members.cox.net/jeneal/PrelimTranscripts/020311p1.txt 17 This body was mummified. All the skin that was still 18 present was mummified, a brown leathery appearance

[demsux]

We want...LIBBY...LIBBY...LIBBY...ON OUR TABLE...TABLE...TABLE

[cyncooper]

Cyncooper, is this just the portion of transcript that was revealed to the jury? Is that why it's not complete?

What was played for the jury (and is therefore evidence) should be represented in those transcripts at CTV. Now, as I said I'm not sure if a page is missing or if they accidentally just posted the one page twice.

The tape played for the jury is just a small portion of the whole interview DW gave to police and as Dusek indicated, there are places in the middle of the jury tape that were edited out.