Van Dam Case Witness Challenges Findings Of Defense 'Bug Expert': But...His Testimony Don't Add Up..

Union Tribune ^ | July 31, 2002 | Jeff Dillion

[Jaded]

Did you hear that great rush of attorneys filing into courthouses to file appeals on convictions gotten by using this junk science?

[Freedom2specul8]

Did you read this?

http://www.websleuths.com/dcf/DCForumID4/837.html

[Freedom2specul8]

They are on the invisible thread....it's on this link

[Jrabbit]

Bass, where were you? I couldn't find anyone to BUGGZ either. Let's formally request Fres to include us on a ping list. How do we do it?

[Jaded]

Thanks for the ping. I had heard they were flaming him, but had not seen it. It's true, he and Ned were polar opposites on this subject.

[Politicalmom]

You are going to ask yourself to ping you? How does that work exactly???

[cyncooper]

I belive the fiber expert DID testify to the fact that the orange fiber around DVD neck was VERY dirty. So much so that she had to scrub the fiber to rid it of dirt so she could compare. This tells me it was there for awhile.

Jennifer Shen testified that the dirt was from the site where Danielle was found (see first and last excerpts below):

Q: IT APPEARS IN PHOTOGRAPH C ON THE FIBER FOUND ON DANIELLE'S NECKLACE THERE ARE BLACK SPOTS FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.

A: YES.

Q: TELL US ABOUT THAT.

A: WELL, THE FIBER THAT WAS REMOVED FROM THE NECKLACE, FIRST OF ALL, IT HAD TO BE UNTANGLED FROM THE HAIR AROUND THE NECKLACE, AND IT WAS COVERED IN DEBRIS AND KIND OF GRIME, DARK DEBRIS, SOME SOIL, AND IT WAS DIRTY. SO WHEN I TOOK THE FIBER OFF, I HAD TO CLEAN IT. AND WHEN I DID THAT, I REMOVED QUITE A BIT OF THE DIRT AND GRIME FROM THE FIBER, BUT THERE IS SOME DIRT AND DEBRIS LEFT ON IT. AND WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN THAT PICTURE IS SOME OF THE DEBRIS THAT HAS NOT BEEN REMOVED FROM THE FIBER.

Q: SO NOT PART OF THE FIBER ITSELF.

A: CORRECT.

Then she describes the fiber tangled in hair in a large clump:

THE WITNESS: IN THE AREA WHERE THE HAIR IS CONCENTRATED IN A LARGE CLUMP, THAT IS WHERE I FOUND THE ORANGE FIBER. IT WAS TANGLED IN THE HAIR IN THAT AREA.

Finally, she states that the fiber likely came to be there close in time to her death due to the way it was tangled and the debris from the Dehesa site:

Q: MISS SHEN, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN. AS FAR AS THE LOCATION OF THAT FIBER IN THE HAIR, TANGLED IN THE NECKLACE, IS THERE ANY SIGNIFICANCE TO ITS LOCATION AS OPPOSED TO IT BEING, FOR EXAMPLE, IN ANOTHER LOCATION ON THE NECKLACE?

A: THE SIGNIFICANCE I THINK OF THE FIBER TANGLED IN THE HAIR IS THAT BECAUSE IT WAS KNOTTED IN THE HAIR AND BECAUSE THE HAIR WAS KNOTTED IN THE NECKLACE AND BECAUSE THE FIBER IS COVERED IN DEBRIS AND THE HAIR AND THE NECKLACE ARE COVERED IN A SIMILAR DEBRIS, IT APPEARS THAT THE FIBER AND THE HAIR WERE ON THE BODY FROM THE TIME THAT IT WAS PLACED WHERE IT WAS FOUND VERSUS HAVING BEEN PLACED ON THE BODY AT SOME LATER TIME.IT ALSO IS REASONABLE I THINK TO CONCLUDE THAT THAT FIBER CAME IN CONTACT WITH THE BODY AND THE NECKLACE AT OR NEAR THE TIME OF HER DEATH.

[Freedom2specul8]

I am confused wrt:the character issue of cletus. Did you ever talk to him on the forums over there?

[Jaded]

Me thinks people are sleeping off all of the bug stuff from yesterday. Letting the mind clear out..... Just getting the heck away from the monitor.

Have gone for food have run out of Desperado Snacks....bbl

[cyncooper]

I don't know how clean any "fiber" or anything else would be after laying in the desert on a decomposing body for that long.

You may be interested in the transcript excerpts from my post #129.

[Freedom2specul8]

I'd venture to guess that the single orange fiber tangled in Danielle's hair, was not there for the passport photo...

[Freedom2specul8]

Yesterday caused headaches...

I never did understand how much of an impact the miscalculations had..but according to the above report, if the jury listened..it didn't affect his conclusion..

[cyncooper]

Have gone for food...

LOL

My pantry and fridge are bare. Guess I better mosey over to the grocery...

[Jaded]

Incoming freepmail.... I won't discuss him publicly.

[Jaded]

Don't forget the bleach, pepsi, no make that coke and .... pringles.

[Freedom2specul8]

10-4

[Jrabbit]

I have to test myself. I'm working with 3 names now and sometimes it gets ugly. BUGGZ and jrabbit don't always agree so Fres has to sing to them. Takes up lots of good posting time!

[Jaded]

Stop it, you're scaring me.

I'm down to only being 2 people now. I might merge again. To confusing, not enough psychedelics.