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Evidence On Insects Likely To Continue: (Westerfield Trial "Creeps" Along At An Ant's Pace!)
Union Trib ^
 | June 29, 2002
 | Alex Roth
Posted on 07/28/2002 8:56:21 PM PDT by FresnoDA
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To: VRWC_minion
    "the arrest warrant was flawed"
Suppose the same people who "flawed" the arrest warrant(s), might have "flawed" the evidence too?
To: gigi
    No, his theory is that he kidnapped her, put her in the SUV and drove her to where the MH was stored and took her in the MH there, raped and killed her , took her back in the SUV, dumped her body and drove home. Then went back to get the MH and meandered around all weekend. I understand his theory. There is no evidence of it. If there was, you can be sure they would have presented it.
 
To: VRWC_minion
    Yes it would make Duseks job much harderYou are right. Sorry for spitting absolutes. It would make his case very hard to win.
 
To: kayti
    How in the "h" did the blood get in the MV then. Your theory that it 'dropped off' is way off base... by that time it would have been dried. None of his DNA was mixed in with it. This is a common mistake that everyone who reads my theory makes. Look slowly at what I am saying. He abducts her at 3am, he takes her in the SUV to his RV at 3:20 am, he then rapes and kills her there in the bedroom without ever starting the engine, he then takes her body from the Rv and puts her back in the SUV at about 4:20 am. He then drives to Dehesa to leave her off at about 5:05 am and finally he returns home with his SUV at about 5:50 (about 10 minutes before sunrise). 
He then takes a short 1 hour nap, wakes and begins the day he explained to the police.
 
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
    I'd just be guessing. Both have a lot of splaining to do. I hope thaey both take the time and go through it carefully. We'll all be disapointed if our favorate points are missed!
To: the Deejay
    How in the "h" did the blood get in the MV then. Your theory that it 'dropped off' is way off base... by that time it would have been dried. None of his DNA was mixed in with it. How did her fingerprints get in the MV then.... "holes in your theory?"... so many it looks like it was hit with a machine gun." Please reread. See my post again above.
 
To: UCANSEE2
    Agreed!
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posted on 
07/29/2002 7:21:57 PM PDT
by 
gigi
 
To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
    just "to understand" where "the people" were coming from. I know. And a good lawyer can make a difference on a jury. Just like a good salesman.
However, if you think the Prosecution is there to represent 'the people', then you are going by the concept, not the practice.
 
To: VRWC_minion
    RE: Post 385...HTML lessons are held for newbies, every Thursday evening, from 6:30 P.M. until 8:45 P.M. Shall we schedule a time for you????
To: VRWC_minion
    Nope, sorry, your imagination doesn't sell me.
No evidence she was in the SUV.
No excrement, urine in MV at terrified death release.
No blue paint to become accumulated under her nails.
He had on a black leather jacket that night.
ratta-tat-tat-ratta-tat-tat
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posted on 
07/29/2002 7:24:54 PM PDT
by 
kayti
 
To: VRWC_minion
    "Please reread. See my post again above."
Thanks, anyway. I read & reread your original post twice, to make sure I was reading it correctly (the blood dripping from his p****.) And I still can't stop laughing about that theory.
To: VRWC_minion
    I would expect much MORE evidence in both the RV and SUV. Which vehicle did he use to dump the body on the 16th, and where did he keep his little treasure until then?
To: John Jamieson
    Suppose the same people who "flawed" the arrest warrant(s), might have "flawed" the evidence too? As I said before if a conspiracy then all bets are off. However, I would hope the atty is smart enough to bring it up. But if conspiracy how did anyone get the fingerprints ? That one really bugs me. Did someone take the rehydrated hand to the RV ?
 
To: VRWC_minion
    I was assuming that you and others were attempting to say that because the arrest warrant was flawed he shouldn't have been charged with the crime. It was my guess that the process requires some checks and balances in the event someone were arrested with flaws. I assumed that was what the preliminary hearing was all about so I went to the transcripts looking for the final say of the judge after hearing the case. I would think that any flaws in the original arrest would be mitigated by the process of the hearing and the presence of Westerfields attorney. Here is the way it works. Cops arrest you, with or without a warrant, valid warrant or not. Doesn't matter. You are screwed from the beginning. If you pay enough money, you can get your way, unless it is a high profile case. Then you hope your attorney can fight his way over some things and the jury decides in your favor. No matter what, you are broke and screwed for life.
That is the way it works. Just ask any one who has been through it on the side of either having been convicted, or tried but not convicted.
 
To: John Jamieson
    Is it getting close to Song Parody time again?
To: the Deejay
    drip,drip,drip!
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posted on 
07/29/2002 7:27:47 PM PDT
by 
gigi
 
To: VRWC_minion
    How and when do you think Westerfield got Danielle out of the vD house?
 Really, I am curious. No one seems to have a logical explanation for how he did that.Apparently Dusek meant to tell us how that was accomplished but so far he has not done so. This is a big hang up for me concerning DW's guilt. Do you think this lack of evidence of DW entering the house will be a hang up for any of the jurors?
497
posted on 
07/29/2002 7:28:19 PM PDT
by 
BARLF
 
To: John Jamieson
    Oh, we know it's the girl's allright, whatever it is, it's such pure DNA that it matches Danielle's DNA so perfectly that it excludes the entire populations of 25 million earth-like planets. Unfortunately they are not educated enough in that area to see why that is a problem.
 
To: FresnoDA
    Go for it!
To: kayti
    No evidence she was in the SUV. Fibers, but checking testimonay now
 No excrement, urine in MV at terrified death release. 
My children go to bed with empty bladders. 
No blue paint to become accumulated under her nails. 
It was my assumption she bit her nails and would not likely have anything under them. What is theory to explain blue paint ? 
 He had on a black leather jacket that night. 
Thanks I didn't know that. Where is that point made ?
 
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