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A 'Marriage Strike' Emerges As Men Decide Not To Risk Loss
The Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | July 5, 2002 | Glenn Sacks and Dianna Thompson

Posted on 07/06/2002 5:00:19 AM PDT by buccaneer81

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To: wanderin
Safe to assume you will not be having a beer with him and trading marital war stories then.

Well. considering my ex is about to become his Fourth wife, I'm sure he would have quite a few tales to tell. I'm afraid the only thing we'll ever trade are punches, and that has to do with my five year old son.

501 posted on 07/06/2002 5:40:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81
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To: Jeff Gordon
Sane people don't put their hands down a disposal because they know the damage that it will inflict.

Sane people don't get married if they're aware of the damage it will inflict.

Or do you consider that to be a challenge??
502 posted on 07/06/2002 5:44:51 PM PDT by Tennessee_Bob
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To: warped
Good for you. Praise God for folks like you.
503 posted on 07/06/2002 5:46:05 PM PDT by lucky7
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To: 2sheep
What a sad state for the nation!

Back in the fifties it was considered by most that the Chinese were really awful because they allowed abortions and the Soviets were really awful because they put their children into "nurseries." What direction are we going?

504 posted on 07/06/2002 5:49:49 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: meyer
Sometimes, I think they ought to just legalize prostitution - At least you know the price up front.

You don't pay a hooker for sex; you pay her to go away without a fuss afterwards.

-ccm

505 posted on 07/06/2002 5:50:18 PM PDT by ccmay
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To: Hostage
Actually, the feminists wouldn't touch the common law. A common law marriage doesn't allow nofault divorce. It allows only the big four: abandonment, nonsupport, physical cruelty and infidelity, and sometimes civil death (long prison terms). The common law admits, coverture a vile thing in feminist eyes.

I would think a feminist who pushed the common law would be ignorant and the rest of the feral pack would square her away post haste.

506 posted on 07/06/2002 6:03:09 PM PDT by William Terrell
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To: Jeff Gordon
Sane people do not put their hands intop garbage disposal. OTOH, lots of sane people get married.

Yes, and lots of sane people don't get married. The existence of the concept of marriage or the fact that it has been a popular tradition in our culture doesn't make it a good choice ipso facto.

Unrelated to that, I came up with a good summary of my marriage philosophy with one of my close (female) friends many years ago. A woman that is good enough for me to marry is a woman that I won't need to marry.

This doesn't mean that I'm opposed to marriage. What it means is that I eye with suspicion any woman who considers marriage as the goal of a relationship, as that strongly suggests fundamentally broken priorities on its face. A lot of guys have not thought about it this way, but they should. Marriage should be a quaint and pointless ritual that you engage in for the heck of it when you have a great relationship, it shouldn't be something that you actively are striving for. Marriage has no intrinsic value, and absent a good relationship, becomes a liability. Too many people get married to "prove" how good their relationship is, when a good relationship should be self-evident with or without marriage.

507 posted on 07/06/2002 6:04:50 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Nick Danger
Outstanding post. Bravo. I agree with every word.
508 posted on 07/06/2002 6:05:59 PM PDT by Skooz
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To: Nick Danger
Are you a divorce lawyer or what? I think you are exaggerating the lucrativeness of divorce in California. It of course depends on the circumstances. And absent a contract, half the community property is goes to the non wage earner or lower wage earner spouse in any event. I suspect you know more about the economics of the federal reserve than about divorce, but that is just a guess.
509 posted on 07/06/2002 6:11:43 PM PDT by Torie
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To: FITZ
It's true what you say but I've seen first hand...

We can all recount anecdotes. We've all seen the one where yada yada happened. Enough with the one-off examples, OK? We push a million couples through the divorce mill, and 897,000 times the woman ended up with the house and the kids. The next woman contemplating divorce now knows she has an 89.7% chance of ending up with the house and the kids. This drastically lowers the level of dissatisfaction necessary to produce an actual divorce.

If there were anything like a reasonable balance in these numbers, there would be far fewer divorces. If people thought they could lose their kids, "boredom" would not qualify as a reason to get a divorce. Neither would "I need to find out who I really am." Add the risk of heart-rending loss to these deliberations -- instead of the near-certainty of winning a free house -- and our fine feathered divorce attorneys would have a lot less to do. People would re-discover what human beings had known for thousands of years: that bad times come and bad times go and this is how life unfolds. You don't need to consult an attorney every time you feel bored.

End the Free House Lotto and the divorce rate will take care of itself. Make it so you can't just win; you can lose, too. People gamble less often when loss is a possibility.


510 posted on 07/06/2002 6:21:13 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: Freee-dame; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian; Fred Mertz; Crazymonarch; ...
>Back in the fifties it was considered by most that the Chinese were really awful because they allowed abortions and the Soviets were really awful because they put their children into "nurseries."  What direction are we going?

  Conspirator's Hierarchy : The Committee of 300  by Dr. John Coleman 

Some highlights of the book:  Nation states could either accept Club of Rome domination or else survive by the law of the jungle and fight to survive.

The Committee of 300 commissioned Cyrus Vance to write a paper on this subject of how best to bring about such genocide. The paper was produced under the title the  "Global 2000 Report"  and was accepted and approved for action by President Carter, for and on behalf of the U.S. Government, and accepted by Edwin Muskie, then Secretary of State.

Under the terms of the Global 2000 Report, the population of the United States is to be reduced by 100 million by the year 2050.

...

(10)To weaken the moral fiber of the nation and to demoralize workers in the labor class by creating mass unemployment. As jobs dwindle due to the post industrial zero growth policies introduced by the Club of Rome, demoralized and discouraged workers  will resort to alcohol and drugs. The youth of the land will be encouraged by means of rock music and drugs to rebel against the status quo, thus undermining and eventually destroying the family unit. In this regard The Committee of 300 commissioned Tavistock Institute to prepare a blueprint as to how this could be achieved. Tavistock directed Stanford Research to undertake the work under the direction of Professor Willis Harmon. This work later became known as  "The Aquarian Conspiracy." [See links below.]

...

Marriage shall be outlawed and there shall be no family life as we know it. Children will be removed from their parents at an early-age and brought up by wards as state property.  Such an experiment was carried out in East Germany under Erich Honnecker when children were take away from parents considered by the state to be disloyal citizens. Women will he degraded through the continued process of "women's liberation" movements.

These two links show how it was done in the music and drug scene:

The "Age of Aquarius" and The "New World Order"

Full text of above link is here:   THE AQUARIAN CONSPIRACY -- Font is too big but content is compelling.  You can direct your browser to reduce font.

511 posted on 07/06/2002 6:25:26 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: Nick Danger
How exactly do we end the Free House Lotto? In California, assets that are community property are split down the middle, and maybe the wife gets alimony for a period depending on a variety of factors. Custody is often joint. There is child support until the child turns 18. I really don't see the Sierra Madre here.
512 posted on 07/06/2002 6:29:46 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Loyalist
I agree with you 100%
513 posted on 07/06/2002 6:30:32 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Nowhere Man
I'm not saying that everybody is that way and of that thought, from here and many other places, there are plenty of responsible people out there, maybe you don't always see it, the "Jerry Springer Crowd" is very visible and vocal, but there are times I wonder if Western Civilization is teetering on the brink.

I wonder too. It is not a man-woman thing, it is that they are destroying the family with their 'kindness'.

515 posted on 07/06/2002 6:32:55 PM PDT by gore3000
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To: Motherbear
Or at least, those were the reasons given by the people you know.
516 posted on 07/06/2002 6:35:21 PM PDT by tortoise
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To: Nick Danger
"When this one calls a lawyer, she hears, "We'll need $1,000 up front to prepare the paperwork. If you're seeking custody, we'll need another $8,000, just to start.""

Those are very realistic numbers.

517 posted on 07/06/2002 6:35:29 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: glm
I have a question for all of you married men -- what did your wife wear yesterday? How attentive are you?

That's one of them thar biological difference thingies. It would never occur to most men that anyone would consider noticing what they wore a form of "attentiveness."

If you had a big enough lie detector, you could probably get 99% of married men to admit that they have lost track of their wives in a grocery store and suddenly realized they they do not know what she has on that day.

We process only enough visual information to determine that that thing moving around over there is not a threat. What it has on, or whether it just got a haircut, is not something we need to know. So we don't.

519 posted on 07/06/2002 6:48:51 PM PDT by Nick Danger
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
I think that normally a pre-nup will not cover common assets after the marriage. And, of course, any children born of the marriage would still have to be supported in the event of divorce.
520 posted on 07/06/2002 6:50:32 PM PDT by Don Myers
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