Scams Away: The Boom Is (attack on Bush)

AL MARTIN raw BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE BELTWAY ^ | not dated | Al Martin

[jackbob]

I wonder how much of this stuff is accurate, and what parts are not accurate. Where accurate, what is the Republican responce?

I find material like this to be quite typical of the material being pushed by democrat party advocates. Answers from Bush supporters will go a long way in keeping fence sitters from falling over to the democratic side in the coming elections.

[OldFriend]

Isn't demonrat spinning amazing? Makes one's head spin just to read it!

As the recent demonrat memo stated........it scares people but it's sooo much fun to bash republicans.

[ArneFufkin]

Who know what's true? He's such a lousy writer. Donald Rumsfeld does not come "out" with a press release from the Defense Department. The threat of arrest for generally "asking questions" is ludicrous. That little scoop was painfully incomplete.

One Congressional Committee IS ENOUGH.

I don't know what the hell the trading of hot info between news sources has to do with anything.

The rest is a nonstory. The public knows there was nothing that could have been done absent an advance warning of the exact time and place of the attack.

The dwarves over at DU are going to chew on this obsessively, like they chewed on Enron, like they chewed on the shadow government, the Supreme Court election heist etc. That's what they do. They're thin pale manic-depressives.

[Quilla]

He [Al Martin] lives at an undisclosed location, since the criminals named in his book have been returned to national power and prominence.

(© AlMartinRaw.com; May 22, 2001)

Having not read the book, I wonder which criminals he is referring to. Gotta give him him credit though, pretty astute observations for May of 2001.

[TC Rider]

I wonder how much of this stuff is accurate, and what parts are not accurate.

Where did it come from? World Weekly News?

Who is this guy? Batboy's father?

I think he needs to adjust his tinfoil beanie.

[Kermit]

You know, this guy and the DemocRATs would have a lot more credibility, if they weren't so blatantly partisan and political. Dashole and Lieberman up in arms about something doesn't even provoke a yawn from me. Al Martin conveniently leaves out 8 years of the most corrupt and evil man ever to be President to blame the Bush2/Bush1/Reagan men, who are the same. Uh, I haven't seen Bush2 clean out any of the Departments of the Clintonistas and Bush2 hasn't been able to put his guys in.

Social Security alone is $20 trillion underfunded and has been for decades. The biggest financial problems of the FedGov come not from what's illegal, but what they've made legal. And what are they doing, they're starting a new welfare program for prescription drugs. Insanity!

[JRandomFreeper]

Republican Cabalists.

Who are these guys and why wasn't I invited? Are members of the VRWC eligible for membership?

I agree. He needs to adjust his tin-foil and maybe take his meds.

/john

[NCDoc]

And then I'm reminded of the words of George Bush who said, "The truth will get you broke."

Or I am reminded of the words of Oliver North who said, "The truth is useless. You can't deposit it in the bank. You can't eat it. It's absolutely useless."

Those who tell the truth must be punished."

Or George W.H. Bush's statement that "If people knew what I have done they would chase me down the street and hang me from a tree".

Yes. They would.

It's why I couldn't vote for Bush in the last election. They remind me too much of the Kennedy family.

[dighton]

... George W.H. Bush's statement that "If people knew what I have done they would chase me down the street and hang me from a tree".

His statement where, when, and to whom?

[NCDoc]

Read, reread, and reread once again the parts of this article that deal with the powers given to the President to supress dissent under the Patriot Act. Martin is absolutely correct to be alarmed at what is happening. We're coming very close to the establishment of a dictatorship in this country.

[jackbob]

I agree, it makes my head spin, especially the entire spin over how much the white house actually knew ahead of time, implying that 9-11 could have been prevented. On the otherhand, I don't think accusations, implied or otherwise should be written off as ridiculous, solely because they lack credibility.

[jackbob]

The president's supporters ought to know what is true. A bad writer today, will be followed by a good writer tomorrow.

Are you suggesting that Rumsfeld doesn't put out press releases? Of course you are right, the threat of arrest for generally "asking questions" is ludicrous. But can you tell me what was "painfully incomplete" about that 'little scoop?'

[ArneFufkin]

I'll wager that Rumsfeld memo has been thoroughly misrepresented in this piece.

[jackbob]

The idea that he lives at an undisclosed location, since the criminals named in his book have been returned to national power and prominence, sounds a bit like fantasy. Maybe even a bit of paranoia.

[jackbob]

It came from his web site. Where does anything come from?

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Looks as if every hack writer will get a column out of this. Frankly, I've never seen Al Martin's pieces in any newspaper and I travel frequently.

[ravingnutter]

Steve Forbes, who probably understands that his political days are over, was also synopsizing the situation the way I did. If George Bush serves a second term, we will have a nation with a debt to GDP ratio of 236% and a debt service to budget ratio of 37%. We will also have an aggregate of $10 trillion, which the Reagan Bush Regime and the Bush II Regime cannot account for.

This is ten trillion missing dollars, which the Reagan/Bush people and the Bush Junior People (which are all the same people) cannot account for. It's money that's "missing" form the Department of Defense, the Treasury Department, the Education Department, Social Security, Bureau of Indian Affairs, Bureau of Land Management, etc. The list just goes on and on.

This is ten trillion dollars, which the Reagan Bush/Bush Jr. people cannot account for. This is money, which will never be accounted for.

Geez I guess that's where the oxymoron of "Naval Intelligence" comes from...this guy keeps repeating himself to make a point. Problem is, he apparently forgot there was an 8-year Clinton Administration between Reagan/Bush and Bush II.Hmmmmmmm...let's see....

Bureau of Indian Affairs:

March 1999 - Montana Senator Conrad Burns today asked Secretary of Interior Bruce Babbitt to account for billions of dollars missing from trust funds held by Native American tribes and individuals throughout the nation. A group of Native Americans, including the Blackfeet tribe in Montana, brought a class-action suit against the government two years ago in an attempt to get an accounting for billions of dollars the government holds in trust. Estimates of missing funds exceed $2 billion, but the administration has failed to produce records accounting for the funds. Over 300,000 individuals and 1,600 tribes with assets held in trust may be affected.

Babbitt and Treasury Secretary Robert E. Rubin were both held in contempt of court last week for failure to comply with court orders to account for the missing funds over the last two years.

Source

Department of Education:

July 2001 - WASHINGTON, DC – U.S. Congressman Bob Schaffer (R-CO) today harshly criticized several examples of waste, fraud, and abuse at the U.S. Department of Education which occurred during the Clinton administration. Appearing at a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Select Education, Schaffer demanded the Education Department identify the people responsible for allowing $450 million to be lost to fraudulent Pell grants and other mismanagement.

An audit by the U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO) revealed a scam where universities made illegal grant applications using bogus Social Security numbers from as many as 900 people determined to be deceased. Source

Bureau of Land Management:

Aug 15, 1999 - The non-partisan General Accounting Office (GAO), a federal "whistleblower," a former Interior Department official and Republican and Democrat Congressmen recently expressed outrage and concern regarding the wasteful, irresponsible and illegal use of federal funds by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service with money designated for State fish and wildlife conservation projects.

The Congressional oversight hearing by the U.S. House Committee on Resources focused on how the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service through its Division of Federal Aid has misused funds meant for administration and execution of the Pittman-Robertson (P-R) Act and Dingell-Johnson (D-J) Acts. These excise tax dollars have been diverted to possibly illegal grants by the Service director, or have disappeared, GAO investigators stated. The Committee also heard that Clinton Administration officials sought to use money from sportsmen to fund an animal rights organization and that FWS officials were in collusion with animal rights groups to attempt to scuttle U.S. negotiations with Europe affecting the American trapping industry.

Source

Geez...looks like Old Al is a liar...but then, we already knew that, he's a rabid Democrat.

[ArneFufkin]

What was incomplete? How about the text of the memo itself? Who were the threats directed to? What lines of questioning were covered? Which recipients of questions were covered? It what venues were the prohibitions placed? What subject matter was deemed unquestionable?

Why don't YOU tell me the whole story of the memo? You seem to think all info up top is complete. Tell us what happened.

[jackbob]

This guy doesn't need creditability. That is for those who follow him with the claims. He is pioneering and testing the lines others may use on larger audiences.

[Steve0113]

Coincidentally Pfizer announced that there is a record number of depressed people in the United States. The number of depressed people in the United Sates since George Bush Jr. has come to office has increased by 11%. And that is the reaction to the Bushonian form of government.

Uh huh. And 9/11 had nothing to do with it. What a dumb ass.