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Can anyone recommend an automobile to survive an Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) attack?
ReveBM | 05/13/2002 | ReveBM

Posted on 05/13/2002 11:25:37 AM PDT by ReveBM

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To: GingisK
To those interested, I found this essay:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/5971/emp.html

61 posted on 05/14/2002 7:32:25 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ReveBM
Any one of these should do.


62 posted on 05/14/2002 9:04:42 AM PDT by occam's chainsaw
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To: ReveBM

Another possibility?

63 posted on 05/14/2002 9:20:01 AM PDT by occam's chainsaw
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To: ReveBM
"I'm just kicking around ideas here, I don't exactly plan on doing things just yet."

My opinion is that an older diesel truck with an air starter is your best option. The on board fuel tanks would store anywhere from 200 to 300 gallons of fuel which can give you quite a distance to drive before refueling.

64 posted on 05/14/2002 9:44:59 AM PDT by Inge_CAV
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To: GingisK
Would you like to explain the technical difference?
65 posted on 05/14/2002 11:59:29 AM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
A good explanation can be found:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/5971/emp.html

Lightning is charge transfer that occurs in a localized "ion channel"; and, this propagates kind of slowly. EMP is more like a wall of high energy photons. These photons are emitted from charged particles that gained thier energy from an intense gamma ray burst. Lightning arrives in a stream. EMP gets you all at once.

66 posted on 05/14/2002 1:39:08 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Interesting site.

My point is that EMP is EMP no matter if it is created by nuclear blast or lightning.

If it's lighting caused EMP you're worried about, you needn't worry.

If it's the nuclear bomb EMP you're worried about, you should worry about the nuclear bomb, not the EMP.

67 posted on 05/14/2002 1:54:31 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
If it's the nuclear bomb EMP you're worried about, you should worry about the nuclear bomb, not the EMP

If the nuke is detonated in the stratosphere, then the EMP is the greatest danger in a wide area. The spot right under the detonation will suffer radiation affects; however, not as intense if the burst were lower. The area affected by the EMP may be a couple of thousand miles in diameter.

The EMP is the weapon in this case. Direct affects of the the nuke is not the biggest problem in that case.

68 posted on 05/14/2002 2:15:07 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
EMP falls off with the cube of the distance. Not likely to do anything but put static on radios at a 1,000 miles. It's clear that you just insist on ignoring the physics, even though you appear to have a technical education.

You worry about it. I'll worry about a heart attack or getting squashed while driving.

69 posted on 05/14/2002 2:28:19 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: billbears
Thanks, problem being is that I do have a post 85 Mustang. I was considering switching back to the carb system, but after running a few scenarios on my desktop dyno, the numbers were actually a little lower for carb vs. fuel injection(chip). Suprised the heck out of me. I've used this program before and it's always been accurate to real world builds within about 5 HP so I had no reason to doubt it.

I believe the EFI systems can deliver more horsepower, as long as you have proper flow-rate injectors and a sufficient fuel pump to keep them at full working pressure. I've used desktop dyno before, too - it is remarkably accurate. Honestly, carburetors can be a real hassle to keep tuned. EFI is so much superior for real-world driving, however, drag cars can forego the smooth-running attributes of EFI and just use a big honkin' carb (carbs do the WOT thing really well).

What year car do you have? As long as it is a 5.0 or 5.8 Windsor V-8, you do have the option of going "retro". :-)

My '65 Fastback is currently running an '87 5.0 engine, fitted with the old 289 intake manifold and distributor while the 289 is being rebuilt and balanced. *** Note: you've gotta run a Ford Racing Parts/SVO billet steel distributor gear; the roller-cam engines have steel camshafts that will chew up older engines' cast iron distributor gear.*** There are a few other early/late parts interchange issues, but it can be done.

70 posted on 05/14/2002 3:06:03 PM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: John Jamieson
You worry about it...

I'm not worried about it. I was merely attempting to render the requested explainations to one I presumed not to know the physics.

In the case of an EMP attack, I'd assume that the EMP producing burst was indended as a prelude to near-ground bursts at optimum altitudes. So, the EMP and its source wouldn't really be the main concern.

Your questions seemed to ask the physical difference between EMP and lightning, not the difference in the probability between being struck by lightning as compared to EMP. Were you baiting for this line of conversation?

71 posted on 05/14/2002 3:06:47 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK
Not purposefully. The lightning causes the EMP.

Glad you're not losing sleep over it.

John MIT'67

72 posted on 05/14/2002 3:25:23 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: Charles Martel
I have a 95 5.0 convertible. Bored 30 over, 2.02 heads, and getting ready to change the cam. Changed the pistons out to JE pistons. Edelbrock recommends with their heads, now get this, the Ford Z303, not the E303, with a .552 lift. I personally think that's too high and will probably stick with a lower cam. Changed out the MAF and throttle body, but to tell the truth I'm thinking about going to a 75 mm throttle body, even though I'm running the 70. Had a chip programmed especially for the car, and currently running 24 lb fuel injectors. Dyno is right around 410 to the ground with different headers and mufflers. No smog pump, no converters either.
73 posted on 05/14/2002 5:44:19 PM PDT by billbears
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To: ReveBM
Uh! I think Tyco Toys make some, but they need to be wind up. ie: no batteries!

Other than that, I suggest you turn off the engine and remove the key when you see the flash. (then kiss your ass goodbye)

74 posted on 05/14/2002 5:51:46 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: ReveBM

Park any car or truck inside a conex box and it should be fine...


75 posted on 06/05/2014 11:45:12 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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