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The New Hobbit Hole

Posted on 03/14/2002 5:07:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog

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To: Penny1
He is a different hobbit, certainly from the one who said "he could not do it alone" in Lothlorien only days before.

There is a confidence and courage about him also when he is confronted by Boromir. "Your words would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart" is a pretty insolent thing for a little hobbit to say to a warrior of Gondor.

I think it happened at the shoreline when he tucks the ring back in his pocket and shoves the boat out from shore. Whether the motivating words from Gandalf were a vision, or just a memory... He became his own master... and the effect seems to have been a calming one.

Without checking, I think we get more fear, doubt and increasing fatigue from Frodo at this point in the book, but I am pleased that Jackson gave us this impression that Frodo was OK with it and serene. Angst is an unsatisfying place to leave us at the end of a film!

He is no longer a shy passenger in the fellowship, looking for direction from someone else, he has become the master of his own destiny.

1,181 posted on 03/27/2002 12:14:27 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I think you are right about when that last change occurred in Frodo. I think more and more about what he is really wrestling with on the banks of the Anduin. It's not just about having the courage to go forward alone, but I think it's grappling with choosing to walk straight into death itself. He knows he is no match for Sauron, for Mordor, or for the ring. Once he has made his choice to surrender his own life, then the turmoil and angst evaporates.
1,182 posted on 03/27/2002 12:30:59 PM PST by Penny1
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To: Penny1
He "screws himself up", as Sam puts it. In the movie, he's sad that he's left his friends to deal with the orcs, Boromir has attacked him and now he must face Mordor alone, or so he thinks. But then he remembers Gandalf's words and "screws himself up". The change on his face is great...from sadness, to rememberance to determination.

A great scene. Still, I wish they'd shown the boat being pushed out into the water by an invisible person and Sam realizing why. . . That's a great mental picture as well.

1,183 posted on 03/27/2002 1:02:29 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: Overtaxed
RE: knowing anything about women, I've been happily married to the same beautiful lady for 28 years and have a 19 year old daughter that I adore, I think that may give me some, but only some, understanding of women, but even with all that, female ways of thinking and reacting still baffle me pretty often. This is a good thing I think...

Thanks for looking in the letters. I'm almost sure that in there somewhere is a passage directly related to defending the actual survival of most of the heroes. I can't seem to find it either, could I have read it somewhere else?

I'm wondering if the defense involves Tolkien's thinking that the main theme of LOTR is death, or that the background for LOTR, the Silmarillion (which I haven't read) contains so much tragedy.

1,184 posted on 03/27/2002 2:11:54 PM PST by Sam Cree
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To: Sam Cree
I'll keep looking but I'm not promising anything. :) Reading all the Letters seems to be in my immediate future.
1,185 posted on 03/27/2002 2:42:19 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Sam Cree
female ways of thinking and reacting still baffle me pretty often.

I feel the same way about male thinking!! Really, who puts a tie-dye in to wash with all your other nice clothes????

1,186 posted on 03/27/2002 3:47:16 PM PST by 2Jedismom
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To: 2Jedismom
LOL Maybe he just doesn't want to be stuck doing laundry in the future.
1,187 posted on 03/27/2002 4:10:44 PM PST by Overtaxed
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To: HairOfTheDog; Bibchr; 2Jedismom; JenB; Overtaxed; carton253; All
Just a word of caution, you all might want to call your local theater before you go to see the trailer on Friday, just to make sure they have it. I found out just yesterday that our Cinerama theater hadn't even heard that there was going to be a new final reel with a TT preview on it--there are several fans who are working on getting them to bring FOTR back there for a limited run and it looks promising.

I've seen some reports from people who've called theaters and been told by employees that they hadn't heard anything about the preview nor had they heard anything about getting a replacement reel with the preview on it. Just seemed like it might be a good idea to call first and make sure it'll actually be there.

This whole business isn't sounding very organized...maybe the theater chains aren't handling it very thoroughly.

On the plus side, I see that at least 2 theaters in my area that didn't show LOTR in the first release are opening with it on Friday. And a theater that hasn't had it for a while is re-releasing it on Friday. Yay!!!

1,188 posted on 03/27/2002 4:37:56 PM PST by Penny1
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To: Penny1
Well, you saved my day Penny! - I called Lacey - And after I got past the first idiot nice young kid that couldn't understand what I was talking about, they are not showing the film after tommorrow. Can you believe that? That they would have shown it up until now and quit the FRIGGING DAY BEFORE the trailer comes out? AAAAAAAARGH!

According to Fandango, two theaters in Tacoma will have it. I guess that is what I shall do! Wanna come down?

1,189 posted on 03/27/2002 5:25:36 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Penny1,JenB, HairOfTheDog
I've been too BUSY this week to even stop in!!! But finally have some time to at least lurk a bit!!

I was so glad the sountrack won! I love the music!

I was hoping to see more cast members at the Oscars..............I thought it was a hoot that Ian McK. & Maggie Smith presented an award together, after he had just spoofed her on SNL last week.:)

I....sure....could....use...a...nice...Aragorn....pic.

1,190 posted on 03/27/2002 5:28:45 PM PST by MozartLover
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To: HairOfTheDog
Oh you poor thing!!! That is awful!

I am in the chatroom, why don't you come on by and we can figure out what to do...

1,191 posted on 03/27/2002 5:29:30 PM PST by Penny1
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To: MozartLover
You mean, one like this:




Or perhaps one like this....



1,192 posted on 03/27/2002 5:35:04 PM PST by Penny1
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To: Penny1
Oh yes. Those will do nicely.:)
1,193 posted on 03/27/2002 5:38:20 PM PST by MozartLover
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To: MozartLover
Or perhaps you'd like this one instead...




1,194 posted on 03/27/2002 5:38:52 PM PST by Penny1
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To: Penny1
Um....I think I see his nose.............
1,195 posted on 03/27/2002 5:40:07 PM PST by MozartLover
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To: MozartLover
you trying to tell me it's too dark? LOL...my monitor doesn't show images as dark as some, so it looks just fine to me...

Guess I'll have to work on those Moria shots...

1,196 posted on 03/27/2002 6:01:52 PM PST by Penny1
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To: Penny1;MozartLover
ML needs a new video card!
1,197 posted on 03/27/2002 6:03:28 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Penny1
Well, I brightened up the screen a little and I can see his face but very dimly.......

Anyway, thanks!:) :)

1,198 posted on 03/27/2002 6:13:50 PM PST by MozartLover
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To: HairOfTheDog
Video card? O-kay.

I'm sure there's SOMONE in this house wh knows what that is.:)

1,199 posted on 03/27/2002 6:14:53 PM PST by MozartLover
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To: MozartLover
1200 posts! 12 for waiting for December!
1,200 posted on 03/27/2002 6:26:30 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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