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Unpacking claims that US dropped from 1st to 24th in education worldwide since 1979
Yahoo News ^ | Taija PerryCook

Posted on 11/18/2025 10:43:10 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Small, yes ( smaller than New York City in terms of population ), but homogeneous? Not really.

Your's is a very USA-centric view of "diversity."

Singapore does indeed have the racial breakdown you state. BUT its schooling (the topic here) is very specifically HOMOGENOUS, to ensure racial harmony and meritocracy.

All students are Singapore-born (except for a very small amount of foreign expats, usually at international schools). They are not cycling through thousands of illegal migrants from across the world.

from 1987 onward, the Singapore Govt mandated that core curricula are taught in English only. They have standardized schedules, standardized tests, standardized textbooks etc. - to ensure Singapore's famous meritocracy is preserved. By high school, students may choose one course for mother tongue instruction (much like US students can study Spanish, French, German) purely out of interest.

Singapore has licensed six madrassas for Muslim students (a very small percentage of students) who want extra religious study, but their core curriculum is the same as everyone else and is taught in English. The government ensures there is no specific racial or ethnic focus in these schools - although the majority tend to be Indian/Malay/Arab students. Even the madrassas are such that a Chinese student could enter and feel they belong there.

Starting in the early 1990s, Singapore Government created strict controls over Islamic studies, and who teaches it for thes specialized schools.

So again, unlike US schools in different states and locales, Singapore schools are extremely homogenous in their content, learning and social/civic education.

21 posted on 11/18/2025 12:57:53 PM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind
There are people who claim that China’s city of Shanghai is actually doing this.

Yes, this is 100% true. NO ONE shows up in China and says "I want to do a large and comprehensive survey of your education system and students, OK?" Any such surveys are conducted 100% on Chinese Government terms, with outcomes they plan in advance.

Once the CCP, after a lot of political consideration and internal debate, decides to participate in such an international survey, they will select who participates. They will certainly choose the best areas and best schools of a city like Shanghai or Beijing. Nothing is left to chance.

And groups like the UN or Intl NGOs go along with it, because 1) they are stupid, 2) have political groupthink, and 3) their job is to go along with any expected results.

22 posted on 11/18/2025 1:07:28 PM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure, Yahoo News. People educated under the Department of Education may believe you. But nobody else. Say, Yahoo, where did you get your education? Maybe that is part of your problem, too.


23 posted on 11/18/2025 1:47:53 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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Did we not just have an article that points out many college students cannot even do elementary Math? This one fact demonstrates the expert metrics are worthless. Cursive writing as a metric, anyone? It is clear our education system has utterly failed. Still not convinced? Take any high school test from the 1900s to the 1960s and administer it to today's students. Most will fail, a lot of college graduates would also fail. Our teachers do everything but teach! But that's another soapbox discussion.
24 posted on 11/18/2025 5:34:41 PM PST by Sam Otto Long (S.O. Long)
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To: SeekAndFind

If we were #1 it was because the rest of the world was either destroyed or underdeveloped. European schools were much more rigorous than ours. Over the last 40 years or so, they’ve gotten slacker, as have ours.


25 posted on 11/18/2025 5:53:10 PM PST by x
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