Posted on 11/12/2025 6:23:52 PM PST by Olog-hai
Similar. Per the quoted definition.
EU - European UNION.
US - UNION of states.
Don’t over-think it. It’s a general idea of a central authority that dictates what a plurality of subsidiary dispersed authorities, by volition in at least certain aspects, have to follow.
The question of the electoral underpinnings, validity, or morality of such authority is secondary to the fact of the top-down nature of the general concept of similar “union” that I employed. Straw man fallacies are rejected.

As to the EU itself, it is become rather more dictatorial as the years passed. Given among its founders was the Italian Communist, Spinelli, it had / has hopes for becoming "federal" like our Republic, but cannot because its parliamentary structure and especially the insular European Commission from Herman Achille, Count Van Rompuy -- I use his official minor aristocrat title -- forward, the dream of a united Europe has always seemed to me that same dream of European aristocrats and also the Marxists, with their "workers of the world, unite."
My contracts worked in Belgium allowed some "close up" experiences, but they are individual perspectives. Some few friends there were wildly pro-EU and others as fully anti-EU as their opposition. My bride and I just think it is an experiment which will end with a kind of collapse over time.
That some in Ireland think they can use the DSA to batter nations / governments outside the EU is one example of many, quite akin to California Democrats thinking they can legislate beyond state borders based on "business." Borders are not only being attacked via illegal economic migrants, but I think because when a border can be breached by law, internationalism / globalism is furthered. Sure was the game of the Schengen arrangement, ostensibly about travel. And of course, "wir schaffen es." What a mess, foreseeable and shouted down once upon that time.
Best wishes.
There was never any hope for the entity that started as the European Coal and Steel Community of being federal in any way like the USA. Right from its outset, it declared “respect for the principles of the Charter of the United Nations”, and that charter was patterned after the 1936 USSR constitution.
Not to mention, the so-called European Parliament, although it transitioned from appointed members to elected ones, never had the power to write a single law.
“The dividing line between progressive and reactionary parties no longer follows the formal line of greater or lesser democracy, or of more or less socialism to be instituted; rather the division falls along the line, very new and substantial, that separates the party members into two groups. The first is made up of those who conceive the essential purpose and goal of struggle as the ancient one, that is, the conquest of national political power – and who, although involuntarily, play into the hands of reactionary forces, letting the incandescent lava of popular passions set in the old moulds, and thus allowing old absurdities to arise once again. The second are those who see the creation of a solid international State as the main purpose; they will direct popular forces toward this goal, and, having won national power, will use it first and foremost as an instrument for achieving international unity.”The man was a Commie, plain an simple. Against "national political power," he was for and worked towards "international unity."
A clever game of offering two alternatives, when there are more than two. Kissing the feet of the Communist / internationalist idea was turned into a quisi ritual when Matteo Rizzi, François Hollande and Angela Merkel all went with bowed heads to Ventone to honor a dead Italian Communist -- for "more Europe," which has become the phrase to trick Europeans into thinking words like "national" and "regional" and "local" are "old absurdities."
Among the real old absurdities of our world is the dream of emperors and kings and tsars and potentates and dictators of all sorts. It is why Islam and Leftists and "royalists" so often align.
Best wishes.
Laughable that Spinelli says the words “democracy” and “socialism” and divides them with “or”, particularly since Woodrow Wilson said before him that “socialism and democracy are almost, if not quite, one and the same”. Wilson was of the same mind as Marx and Engels when it came to democracy; Engels in particular said that the first thing that the Communist Party intended to do was to “establish a democratic constitution”.
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