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Interesting and rational take regarding the role of Qatar. Thank you. I am assuming Trump is trying to rein their bad forces in via economic interdependence of sorts?
This is a Jewish publication intended for an Israeli audience because it has been mainstream in Israel to think that way about Netanyahu.
Hamas didn’t become a major player until 2006 when the Bush pushed for elections in Gaza, that the PA was supposed to win.
Hamas got the surprise win, and then the US and Israel funded and armed the PA/Fatah to try and overthrow Hamas, but lost.
In June 2006 Israel invaded Gaza. Then again in 2008 Israel invaded Gaza, and the final failed Bush foreign policy move was to force Israel to pull out in the last weeks of the Bush presidency.
^^ this isn’t a track record of supporting Hamas.
Israel did later allow money from Qatar into Gaza. The reasons are complicated. It started as part of terms of a ceasefire agreement. It was also a failed attempt to appease/moderate Gaza. Was there some idea it would keep the West Bank and Gaza divided, thwarting a two-state deal? Probably!! But Israel didn’t initiate payments as a strategy, it was more like a side effect of events.
The punishment for the House of Israel's adultery with other 'gods' was they would cease to know who they were!!!
The Heavenly Father has indeed kept HIS promise to Abraham, which the unlearned attempt to necklace around peoples who worship another 'rock'.Np>
The Prophets sent by the Heavenly Father called the 'Minor Prophets', particularly Hosea and Amos, Joel ... penned that the House of Israel, also called Ephraim , would no longer know who they were ... The House of Israel were sent into captivity to the Assyrian king ... The children were then taken up and over the Caucus mountains ... Key of David ... nobody can change ... but the devil has been real busy sowing mass deception.
The first 'assignment' Christ gave to His disciples was to go to but the LOST sheep of the House of Israel ... The overwhelming majority are still clueless who those 10 Tribes literally are .... Just go to any 'anti-Semenmite' thread ... total BS ...
Now wonder why Christ said the LEARN the parable of the FIG tree... Wonder who it was that decided the Garden Party took place in an Apple orchard... Was it a Rome Apple orchard??? Why they partied in the FIG Grove ...fig leaves surely much be a larger leaf than an Apple leaf... to HIDE the unmentionables..
Who is NOT listed in the Adam's genealogy ???
Netanyahu for years pursued a deliberate strategy of allowing Qatari funds into Gaza to bolster the group as a counterweight to the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. This policy faced significant criticism and has been described as a “strategic error”.
Here is a breakdown of the policy and its rationale:
Strategic Rationale: Netanyahu and his government viewed strengthening Hamas as a way to prevent the establishment of a unified Palestinian state. By keeping the Palestinians divided between the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip and the Fatah-controlled West Bank, Israel could avoid a comprehensive peace negotiation that would involve discussions of statehood. In 2019, Netanyahu reportedly told his Likud party that “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas”.
Qatari Cash Transfers: Beginning in 2018, with Israel’s approval, Qatar delivered millions of dollars in cash to Gaza on a monthly basis, sometimes in suitcases. These funds were intended for civilian purposes, such as paying the salaries of civil servants and providing aid to needy families, which the Israeli government argued was necessary to prevent a humanitarian crisis. The transfers were supervised by Israel and the funds were defined as being for “humanitarian purposes only”.
Warnings and Denials: Despite the official line that the money was purely for humanitarian aid, some former Israeli security officials warned that the funds could be diverted to Hamas’s military wing. Netanyahu’s office has denied receiving any intelligence documents that explicitly stated the Qatari funds were being used for terrorist activity, maintaining that the money went to civilian needs.
Consequences: Following the October 7, 2023, attack by Hamas on Israel, this policy came under intense scrutiny. Critics, including some members of the Israeli government, have labeled the approach a failure that ultimately enabled Hamas to build its military capabilities, including its extensive tunnel network.
In summary, the Israeli government’s policy of allowing Qatari cash into Gaza was designed to empower Hamas politically and strategically, a decision that is now widely criticized as having contributed to the current conflict.
Israeli PM ‘missed chance’ to cut off Hamas cash, says the ex-spy chief.Feb 18, 2024 — Israeli PM ‘missed chance’ to cut off Hamas cash, says ex-spy... * Udi Levy says he alerted Mr Netanyahu to Hamas...———
Israeli envoy in NY laments ‘strategic error’ of allowing Qatari ...
Oct 24, 2025 — Israeli envoy in NY laments ‘strategic error’ of allowing Qatari cash transfers to Gaza | The Times of Israel.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gambled that a strong Hamas (but not too strong) would keep the peace and reduce pressure for a Palestinian state.
During the 1970s, Israel began providing support to Ahmed Yassin, a Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood leader who controlled a network of Islamic schools, mosques, and clubs, in order to weaken the secular nationalist Palestine Liberation Organization.
Which is Trump's perspective and that was why he wanted to end the war in Gaza.
It's not a popular issue in USA and Trump didn't want us to be in the middle of the mess.
Now it's up to the other Muslim nations to resolve whatever it is that they want to do in Gaza.
And there is this from https://www.pressreader.com/usa/the-boston-globe/20240514/281625310402251
JERUSALEM — Hamas leader Yehia Sinwar has for years overseen a secret police force in the Gaza Strip that conducted surveillance on everyday palestinians and built files on young people, journalists, and those who questioned the government, according to intelligence officials and a trove of internal documents reviewed by the New York times.
The unit, known as the General Security Service, relied on a network of Gaza informants, some of whom reported their own neighbors to police. people landed in security files for attending protests or publicly criticizing hamas. in some cases, the records suggest that authorities followed people to determine if they were carrying on romantic relationships outside marriage.
Hamas has long run an oppressive system of governance in Gaza, and many palestinians there know that security officials watch them closely. but a 62-slide presentation on the activities of the service, delivered only weeks before the oct. 7 attack on israel, reveals the degree to which the largely unknown unit penetrated the lives of palestinians.
The documents show that hamas leaders, despite claiming to represent the people of Gaza, would not tolerate even a whiff of dissent. Security officials trailed journalists and people they suspected of immoral behavior. Agents got criticism removed from social media and discussed ways to defame political adversaries. political protests were viewed as threats to be undermined.
Everyday residents of Gaza were stuck — behind the wall of israel’s crippling blockade and under the thumb and constant watch of a security force. that dilemma continues today, with the added threat of israeli ground troops and airstrikes.
“We’re facing bombardment by the occupation and thuggery by the local authorities,” Ehab fasfous, a journalist in Gaza who appeared in the files of the security service, said in a phone interview from Gaza...
How did the Boston Globe get this story?
The documents were provided to the times by officials in israel’s military intelligence directorate, who said they had been seized in raids in Gaza.
Before or after October 7?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/30/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-attack-intelligence.html
The document circulated widely among Israeli military and intelligence leaders, but experts determined that an attack of that scale and ambition was beyond Hamas’s capabilities, according to documents and officials. It is unclear whether Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu or other top political leaders saw the document, as well...
So UNlike the IDF to blow off intel like that; didn't they develop a reputation for shooting first and verifying later?
That’s my view when I’m being optimistic. Yes, behind the scenes, Trump’s combination carrot and stick. He has given them a security guarantee, and trying to make them part of the solution. I take a dimmer view of them, but I’m not the president. I’m sure the world looks very different when you’re in the game versus watching from the bleachers like me.
Gazans will never be free and prosperous while they are ruled by Hamas gangsters. They will never even be normal people until Hamas has been forced out.
It's not a popular issue in USA and Trump didn't want us to be in the middle of the mess.
Now it's up to the other Muslim nations to resolve whatever it is that they want to do in Gaza.
And it's worth noting that President Trump has much higher approval in Israel than their own Prime Minister. Trump and Netanyahu are NOT not viewed as one and the same. And back here at home, most common sense leaders in Washington and Christians want resolution as well - however imperfect. Prayers up for peace.
The problem is for many there is this unspoken but obvious belief that there is no hope for anything other than some nihilistic scenario, because there is no "alternative" to Hamas, that the population is irreparably brainwashed, and the PLO is equally bad. So you can guess where that line of logic ultimately leads. Which is awful. And to be fair, the neighboring Arab countries like Jordan don't seem interested in taking control even if offered - either.
But I think Trump has been doing the right thing.
It’s like the problem with Iran’s nukes. Everyone knows they are an existential threat, but the cost of doing something about them was so high and so frightening that they, everyone, looked for any and every possible alternative to direct action. Only when Iran was launching swarms of ballistic missiles anyway did the risk-reward equation seem acceptable.
Similarly in Gaza. Hamas has brought nothing but misery and war to both Israelis and Arabs. But the cost of getting them out has seemed so impossibly high that there was no political will to go in and get them out. Even now, after most of the cost has been paid (in blood and rubble), the political will to finish them is flagging.
Trump’s plan to bring in basically the Gulf States to help seems unworkable but when again you consider the obvious alternative I suppose it’s worth it to let Trump have a go at it. But I don’t think anything good happens while Hamas is still functional.
“”Biblical or not. Middle East or not. The US still needs to be discerning about how it involves itself around the world. Claiming to just pour money and weapons over Israel and calling it the “Lord’s work” is not Biblical. It might even be cursing the region instead of blessing it.
God doesn’t need human interference in helping usher His prophecies along. His promises stand regardless of how you interpret them. Jesus’ only command to His followers is to spread the Gospel to all nations. To seek peace and pursue it.””
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Yeah, don’t worry. The anti-Israel folks will get their way on that bit (pour money and weapons over Israel), eventually. The Democrats will get back into power and that “giving money and aid to Israel” will, once again, come to a screeching halt.. probably for good. Nah, the US will turn against Israel in the end, right along with every other nation. So to all of those bashing Israel and Bibi, buck up, butter cup. It will all go your way some day.
It’s sadly a sign of the times .... ie going ‘pro-Muslim’ (which equates to anti-Israel) and is glaringly apparent even now (See: NYC’s new mayor, for one example).
As far as “seeking peace”... that ain’t gonna happen. Not with the Muslims, the globalists and the ‘other’ anti-Christians running and ruining things around the globe, with the help of our wonderful Democrat Party cretins. If we’re enjoying any level of peace at all right now, enjoy it while you can. Just... sayin....
Indeed, it was the UN that funded Hamas and USAID the helped to fund the supposed sanitary system into the miles of tunnels under Gaza.
Read more:
https://globaldisconnect.substack.com/p/usaid-gifted-a-cement-factory-to
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https://www.jns.org/hamas-used-unrwa-and-usaid-sacks-to-build-tunnels/
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/24/nyregion/hamas-gaza-aid-unrwa-lawsuit.html
Good point.
So Israel needs to prepare for the strategic eventuality that AOC will become President in USA and we will cut Israel off.
I'm sure that they are developing ways to become more self-sufficient when it comes to their defense needs.
“”I’m sure that they are developing ways to become more self-sufficient when it comes to their defense needs.””
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They will have to, and that’s not a bad thing.
You should take any New York times article on Netanyahu with the same grain of salt as any New York Times on Trump. I.e., they hate both men and when not outright lying, are giving the worst possible spin.
Two points though, first the NY Times article supports that it was NOT just about splitting the PA.
“Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting.”
Second, the claim that Netanyahu’s goal was a counterbalance to the PA is poorly sourced: one extreme leftist journalist makes the claim. There is no good sourcing on this.
Bottom line is it may or may not be true, it is poorly sourced, and even if it is true, it wasn’t the primary or only reason it happened.
64 sources on Wikipedia so you can check them out since like you said you have a good reason not to trust NYT.
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