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Stop Hyperventilating About Rare Earths, the China Risk is Overblown
AMUSE on X ^ | 15 Oct, 2025 | @AMUSE

Posted on 10/16/2025 8:40:34 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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1 posted on 10/16/2025 8:40:34 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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You can count on the democRATs to oppose mining and refining. The EPA will have to be reigned in and care will have to be taken in refining plant process selection and facility design.


2 posted on 10/16/2025 8:40:50 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Yup—this is a classic case where China is not the problem.

Democrats and leftists are.


3 posted on 10/16/2025 8:45:54 AM PDT by cgbg ("The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it.")
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That was an unusually well-reasoned and written piece. The writer is meaured in his rhetoric, and full explians each point without ignoring or dismissing objections. thank you for that.

I think when the right people (which includes the right money) want movement, brifges are made, and bariers are lowered. AI wants electricity, and Google and Amazon and Microsoft are getting movement are micro-nukes that would have been completely out-of-bounds a decade ago.


4 posted on 10/16/2025 8:56:45 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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The lessons here are:

1) never allow the Gaia Worshipers to sabotage national security and industrial independence like this again.

2) Cooperate with and pool resources with close allies to the greatest extent possible to ensure independent supply

3) Maintain larger stockpiles for national security. We should be doing the same with grains, metals, oil, weapons, medicines and ammunition

5 posted on 10/16/2025 8:58:06 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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Just start the Greenland invasion already


6 posted on 10/16/2025 8:59:10 AM PDT by montag813
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Here's a notion not so prevalent in the moment.

Stop hyperventilating. period.

7 posted on 10/16/2025 8:59:28 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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The 17 rare earth elements (REEs) are: lanthanum, cerium, praseodymium, neodymium, promethium, samarium, europium, gadolinium, terbium, dysprosium, holmium, erbium, thulium, ytterbium, lutetium (the 15 lanthanides), along with scandium and yttrium. Despite their name, most are relatively abundant in the Earth’s crust, but they are difficult to separate from one another and are not often found in concentrated deposits. Most ree deposits do not have all the rees.

“...difficult to separate from one another...” is an understatement. Often they are chemically very similar to other ree’s, so require strong caustic solvents at high temperature and pressure to separate them. Which produces a lot of very toxic pollutants.


8 posted on 10/16/2025 9:00:10 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Stare too long into the dachshund and the dachshund stares back.")
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Several sites have been proposed, all shut down by treehuggers.


9 posted on 10/16/2025 9:01:01 AM PDT by bobbo666
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The EPA will have to be ended.It is a bureacuracy set up for power accumulation first and foremost.


10 posted on 10/16/2025 9:06:53 AM PDT by arthurus (l| covfeve |l ,)
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One of the best explicatory articles I have read about anything.


11 posted on 10/16/2025 9:08:30 AM PDT by arthurus (l| covfeve |l ,,)
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12 posted on 10/16/2025 9:08:47 AM PDT by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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A lot of this scenario will depend on the 2026 and especially the 2028 elections. A pro-China and anti-U.S. Congress and/or administration could stop the whole thing.


13 posted on 10/16/2025 9:09:29 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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For a time, at least, the tree huggers are being separated from the trees.


14 posted on 10/16/2025 9:11:10 AM PDT by arthurus (l| covfeve |l ,.)
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“China accuses U.S. of deliberately causing panic over rare earth controls, says it is open to talks”

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/16/china-trump-xi-rare-earth-tariff-trade-war.html


15 posted on 10/16/2025 9:22:43 AM PDT by CFW
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Not like we don’t have them here, but dims love to practice NIMBY while using their cell phones and driving there coal powered er ah electric cars full of rare earth(actually not so rare) metals


16 posted on 10/16/2025 9:30:02 AM PDT by blitz128
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I can’t put a toilet in my house without 100 bureaucrats signing off and 1000s of pages of regulations.

You’re right. No way in hell the bureaucrat class will allow a single shovel of dirt to start new mines and processing centers.


17 posted on 10/16/2025 10:04:59 AM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower.)
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You can count on the democRATs to oppose mining and refining. The EPA will have to be reigned in and care will have to be taken in refining plant process selection and facility design.

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It has been the democrats plan for a long time to de-industrialize America.


18 posted on 10/16/2025 10:06:23 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (NO rooftop security at the Charlie Kirk assassination event? Did we learn nothing from Butler, PA?)
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Rare Earth minerals can be found all over the globe.

Mining and refining them, however, is often very expensive and very complex.

From memory...

China is the ONLY refiner for many of the most important Rare Earth minerals.

19 posted on 10/16/2025 10:34:16 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump Landslide? Kamala lost the election by 230,000 votes, in WI, MI, and PA.)
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“At its 2023 Investor Day, Tesla engineers announced that the next-generation drive unit will use zero rare earth elements entirely, relying on optimized stator design and high-coercivity ferrite or alternative magnet materials.”

So is Tesla’s use going to be “zero” in December because they’re not needed, or not available?

What about Ford’s need?

GM’s need?


20 posted on 10/16/2025 11:14:41 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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