Posted on 09/13/2025 9:58:11 AM PDT by dangus
China is a Communist country with no political freedom. I hope all of you Commie lovers move there. Stuff your solar panels.
Yep. Whenever Washington is promoting anything, it’s never about what’s being promoted as much as it is about lining the right pockets with public $.
And mere greed.
They are INTENTIONALLY trying to force people into using an inefficient system of power, so that they can eventually use it to control people by rationing electrical power to only people who meet their 'social credit score' requirements.
You have been consistently wrong I just ignore old coots like you.
There is nothing factually wrong with any of the data I posted. Texas is the leader in US energy because of our solar and wind which we dominate not only the total oower delivered and used market twice what
Florida or California prodice. We also have some of the lowest wholesale and industrial power rates it’s why all the AI and crypto servers are being built here.
China gets things right on infrastructure yeah they are a one party system that doesn’t change the FACT that engineers are in the one party in control of the infrastructure build outs. Cope all you want they are building multiple times the capacity of the USA in energy harvesting machines which is what wind and solar are they harvest 40 to over 100 times the energy to make them. That is conclusively proven by science of you want to be emotional have at it.
Remember again China don’t do climate change they give zero Fs about carbon yet they HAVE not are building out the largest solar and wind deployments the planet has ever seen. They built out SIX TEXAS grids worth of just new solar in six MONTHS time. They didn’t do that because they though omg carbon. They did it because they have engineer’s who can do math and they solved the equations that show solar in a desert is the cheapest form of flowing electrons humans have come up with. The IEA has no less than 5 mathematical studies showing exactly that.
China knows it’s windy somewhere all the time and over a continent sized area it’s sunny too so they built out a super grid to move via 1 million volt DC and AC lines from where it’s windy and sunny to where their megacities are. Again engineers who could careless about climate change. Theye know once your build out that super grid you only have to maintain it and you have forever energy falling from literal heavens and in the air.
I won’t bother listening to you but will set the factual record straight every time. Flat out you are wrong and couldn’t be more wrong if you tired.
Considering how little time that we’ve had industrial scale battery backup? We’ve had 2 major fires in the last year and both facilities were totally wiped out. They are way more prone to fire. And moreover you can’t put that fire out or even control it. It’s a metal fire. C’mon Man!
Wrong in many ways.
China and even Arabs profit from Green energy.
Who makes the solar cells? China!
US has the world largest deposit of coal. If not for the greenies, we could run the whole country on US mined coal!
The so called green energy is the most polluting energy there is. Destroying our environment, farmland, protected species!
The solar cells/windmills deliver their energies exactly when it is not needed!
Do you know, that during the “green energy “ peak operations, the wholesale price of energy is often NEGATIVE! Useless energy, They have to pay somebody to get rid of it!
China is a Communist third word s-hole for 500 million or more. Why don’t you move there you Commie loving bastard. FOAD.
Pumped water storage.
>> China and even Arabs profit from Green energy.
Who makes the solar cells? China! <<
China takes a loss on every solar cell they sell in America because they’re trying to stifle our PV industry.
>> The so called green energy is the most polluting energy there is. Destroying our environment, farmland, protected species! <<
That you make such a categorical statement proves it comes from ideology, not fact.
The vanishing farmland/protected species argument is laughable with regards to solar power. An acre of rooftop could provide area for solar panels that could generate 1 MW. There are 1.2 MILLION acres of rooftop, so we could entirely replace our natural-gas electricity production with solar using only rooftops and zero farmland. It’s just marginally cheaper to use solar “farms” instead of rooftops.
In fact, we could power the entire U.S. with only the number of solar panels you could fit in San Bernadino County!
when has the government been right about anything?...
“C’mon Man”
You sound like Joe Biden.
Which two fires do you refer to? because none of the major fires I find have anything to do with industrial-scale electricity-generating plants. The American one was a battery-recycling plant in Missouri. It matters because it’s positively unreasonable to include Joe Hick’s battery recycling outfit as if it were an industrial-scale electricity-generating plant because the regulation involved is incomparable. Heck, back in the day, it seemed like there was ALWAYS an on-going oil refinery fire.
One little issue with the ground moving: The ground is moving. The things called earthquakes (when the earth moves) are rather unpleasant and often very expensive.
A good example of the type of difficulty I am referring to is the Three Gorges Dam in China, where the volume of water being impounded is so heavy it’s causing earthquakes all around the area.
Intentionally causing the earth to rise and fall seems a little counter productive to me.
Touche on the Biden reference... LOL!
Follow the money...
Billions went into bank accounts of politicians, friends, and relatives....
Social engineering to help spend on MMT.
In my defense, I did say #1 or #2.
The EU is now working over time to shut down nuclear.
From memory, France was getting 80% of its electricity from nuclear a couple decades ago.
Sounds impressive...
Until, you realize that solar and wind have to be 100% backed up by carbon or nuclear.
The financial and environmental cost of battery back up is ridiculous.
Also, the idea that CO2 - 0.04% of our atmosphere - controls our climate, is also ridiculous.
>> Until, you realize that solar and wind have to be 100% backed up by carbon or nuclear. The financial and environmental cost of battery back up is ridiculous. <<
You’re information is out of date.
Your comment is substance free and completely meaningless.
Besides pumping water up-hill into reservoirs, what serious alternative is available?
In the mean time, perhaps we should ask France to manage the USA electric grid?
35 years ago, France got 80% of its electricity from nuclear.
What’s out of date is your assertion that the economic cost of battery backups is ridiculous. It’s the same thing with the rest of the Luddites on this thread: you’re arguing what can’t be done after it’s already been done. You’re making an argument people made 30 years ago... when the cost of battery storage was literally ONE HUNDRED times greater.
In 2018, the government projected we’d reach 1 GWh/yr by 2030. By just 2020, the government doubled that projection. We reached that new, doubled projection by 2024. Remember how everyone on Free Republic insisted Tesla could never make a profit? This means that even AFTER Tesla proved it would be an utterly enormously profitable company, the CHEERleaders for battery energy supply were wrong by a factor of FOUR how quickly utility battery storage would be adopted.
See, what everyone got wrong about what the government got wrong that I refer to in my title wasn’t that the greenies OVERestimated the adoption of renewable energy; it’s that they absurdly, ludicrously, even stupidly UNDERestatimated the adoption.
I say stupidly because they saw their mistakes repeated time and time and time again and kept making the same mistakes; I don’t call the Luddites here stupid... For now, I’ll just call you all Luddites. But at some point, the Luddite position must be abandoned, or it becomes stupid. It’s like you’re standing there claiming that the Wright Brothers’ plane will never fly, while America is bombing the crap out of Germany.
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