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Von der Leyen says Europe is drawing up ‘precise’ plans to send troops to Ukraine, FT reports
Straits Times ^ | 8/31/2025 | Reuters

Posted on 08/31/2025 1:42:21 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: Arcadian Empire

“”””Does anyone understand that this is about sending Europeans to die?””””

Why would Putin break a ceasefire and attack peace keeping forces?


21 posted on 08/31/2025 3:09:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: marcusmaximus

Every country involved in the West has said they will not participate unless permitted by the Russians.

And Russia has said they will not permit it.

Besides, even an eighth grader can see there will be no peace agreement.


22 posted on 08/31/2025 3:15:16 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: delta7

IBTS


23 posted on 08/31/2025 3:21:04 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: McCarthysGhost; mass55th

“American air power would bombard the Russians into oblivion. Count on it.”

IF, I repeat IF American combat aircraft ever fly in Ukrainian airspace it will be with Russia’s agreement.

Still, very, very unlikely.


24 posted on 08/31/2025 3:21:34 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: marcusmaximus

Oh for those halcyon days of empires, colonies, great armies, navies…

The European elites are like rats running around in a circular maze, unable to break out, unable to face up to current reality. Economics, manpower, internal strife, unstable government… what’s that?


25 posted on 08/31/2025 3:21:49 PM PDT by RAldrich
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To: McCarthysGhost

You’re delusional. Russia will resort to tactical nukes if necessary.


26 posted on 08/31/2025 3:31:33 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: McCarthysGhost

Why do all the neocons on here appear to have a 2 digit IQ? Just mind boggling stupidity. We’ve already p*ssed away $18 trillion on these useless neocon wars over the last couple of decades leaving us vulnerable to a financial collapse yet you pinheads want to double down and waste even more.


27 posted on 08/31/2025 3:39:48 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: marcusmaximus

Home by Christmas!


28 posted on 08/31/2025 3:50:13 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: McCarthysGhost
European/Ukrainian troops with American air power should do the trick. Might just mess around and DEFEAT Russia completely.

You Deep Staters crack me up. You spent a trillion dollars turning Iraq into an Iranian puppet state, you lost Afghanistan and fortunes in military treasure, and you have wasted hundreds of billions more losing to Russia. You are the sort of people "FAFO" was made for. What are you going to do (besides wet your pants) when the citizen militia here in the US decides enough is enough and that you need to be driven into the sea? Make yourself obnoxious enough in treating us as slaves to be pillaged to pay for your agenda and adventures, and you will find out.

29 posted on 08/31/2025 3:51:09 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: marcusmaximus

Makes sense. It’s been a while since millions of Europeans have been killed in a war. Gotta make room for the violent savages they have imported.


30 posted on 08/31/2025 3:56:51 PM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower. )
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To: marcusmaximus

USAF providing ISR support to Ukrainian drone and missile strikes right now
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Fools.


31 posted on 08/31/2025 4:04:49 PM PDT by delta7
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To: McCarthysGhost

American air power would bombard the Russians into oblivion. Count on it.
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You are funny.


32 posted on 08/31/2025 4:07:58 PM PDT by delta7
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To: BenLurkin
Rather like earlier rogues' galleries, this one with some who are missing in the last. Biden, obviously, but also Trudeau, Johnson, Scholz, with the tag team in their place....

But there sits Ursula, Queen of the EU....

33 posted on 08/31/2025 4:09:53 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: McCarthysGhost
Paging Robert Strange McNamara.... Please pick up the phone with the big red button.
34 posted on 08/31/2025 4:12:34 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: marcusmaximus

I really don’t think they will because it would be suicide. Russia doesn’t want to go there and neither do we. No, Russia will cause other problems but they will lose the war in Ukraine in a matter of months. They will do horrible things on their way out the door but they will find the door.


35 posted on 08/31/2025 4:37:26 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: jimwatx

Russia will not negotiate an end to the war. This is a key difference from what many of us previously believed. This war has now become a clear provocation to America and Europe. Watch what Trump does. He knows it.


36 posted on 08/31/2025 4:53:59 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Paging Chamberlain, peace in our time. Russia are really nice and would never do anything to threaten us or Europe, excluding waging war of course.


37 posted on 08/31/2025 5:02:04 PM PDT by McCarthysGhost
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To: McCarthysGhost
--- "Paging Chamberlain, peace in our time. Russia are really nice and would never do anything to threaten us or Europe, excluding waging war of course."

A lovely reply, quite worthy of the BBC's Cathy Newman, and her "so what you're saying is" stratagem. Nothing you penned above is remotely near my comment.

You, on the other hand, "American air power would bombard the Russians into oblivion. Count on it."

These threads have enjoyed "Nuke him!" most recently, and "I would rather the world end in nuclear war than yield to Little Pukin" back in 2022. "Bombard the Russians into oblivion" is your stance, for being your words. Verbatim.

38 posted on 08/31/2025 5:13:40 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: McCarthysGhost

And the USAF can bomb Russia into oblivion, and they would never dare nuke DC, London and Berlin? They would meekly surrender?

Glad you weren’t in charge in the 60s and 70s.


39 posted on 08/31/2025 5:13:41 PM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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To: ansel12

“Why would Putin break a ceasefire and attack peace keeping forces?”

Because the “peacekeepers” are a ruse. They want them there to provide a NATO skirt Ukes can hide behind and then conduct “deniable” operations.

The EUs and Brits will embed in Uke positions, set up SAM sites, and operate no-fly patrols etc.
When...not if, but WHEN the Uke SBU types inevitably start post ceasefire bombings, terrorist attacks, assassinations, and infrastructure sabotage like blowing up pipelines, trains and the Kerch Bridge... the Russians will want to retaliate. When they hit Uke positions in retaliation, EU “peacekeepers” will be in those positions.

That is also why there will be no ceasefire outside a comprehensive peace plan. The Russians know the minute the DC/London Axis gets the “frozen conflict” they have wanted for about 16 months... they lose all leverage in negotiations.

There would be no lifting of all sanctions, no repair of Nordstream, no return of the hundred of billions in confiscated Russian currency and gold, etc.


40 posted on 08/31/2025 5:26:43 PM PDT by DesertRhino (When men on the chessboard, get up and tell you where to go…)
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