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Commerce Sec. Lutnick says TikTok will go dark if China won't agree to U.S. control of the social media app
CNBC ^ | Thu, Jul 24 2025 | Ashley Capoot

Posted on 07/30/2025 2:18:16 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: MinorityRepublican

Let us say the sale is completed at 12 noon Monday.

What will change?

Will the TikTok software be rewritten by 1pm?

Will the TikTok software be understood by the acquiring American company within seven days? Seven weeks?

Will TikTok be taken offline until the software is understood or rewritten?

What if 10% of the acquiring company’s software engineers were born in Red China?


21 posted on 07/30/2025 2:52:01 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Wuli
But the longer TikTok goes dark, the owners will see the value of their holding slipping and THEY will pressure Xi to make a deal to sell TikTok to U.S. interests.

I can see why they would be reluctant to cut the Americans off.

Once they spin it off, the original app will lose 50% of the value.

They'll be stuck with the Brits instead.

22 posted on 07/30/2025 2:52:15 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Brian Griffin
What will change?

The rumor is that they are working on the M2 app for the American market.

The original app will no longer work.

23 posted on 07/30/2025 2:53:23 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

It’s about damn time. Enforce the law. Shut it down.


24 posted on 07/30/2025 3:01:44 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
It’s about damn time. Enforce the law. Shut it down.

Joe Biden agrees with you. He was able to shut down TikTok on January 19, 2025.

25 posted on 07/30/2025 3:03:23 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

What’s to prevent the Chinese from say creating a new company called say HotChicks, HandsomeHulks, BeltwayJobs, BetterButtocks or SiliconValleySaves run by Beijing-loving folks with American citizenship?


26 posted on 07/30/2025 3:03:31 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: All

On 1/19/2025.

27 posted on 07/30/2025 3:05:04 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

“I can see why they would be reluctant to cut the Americans off. “ ...”Once they spin it off, the original app will lose 50% of the value.”

Yes, once it goes dark in the U.S. it loses market (customers) outside the U.S. as well, as some foreign TikToc account holders depend on U.S users and ads U.S. users. The market customer share for TikTok will start dropping globally, the market value for TikTok starts dropping and for its 60% shareholders its either get Xi to make a deal or abandon their equity in TikTok. The possible U.S. buyers are by then already losing interest as well, as their valuation of TikTok is “as is”, not as it will be after/if it goes dark in the U.S.


28 posted on 07/30/2025 3:21:47 PM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Let ‘em go dark.......the “woke” and “snowflakes” will go nuts!


29 posted on 07/30/2025 3:23:24 PM PDT by traditional2 ("Is it them, again, Yogi?")
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To: Wuli
Two problems with the American version of TikTok.

It won't have the algorithm.

It'll only work in the U.S., so if you have global customers, you won't be able to reach them.

TikTok competitor is going to have global reach. At least until we decide to ban it.

30 posted on 07/30/2025 3:29:04 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: traditional2
Let ‘em go dark.......the “woke” and “snowflakes” will go nuts!

Trump used TikTok to campaign.

He wasn't able to campaign by using traditional media.

He had to use alternative media and TikTok helped him to win the election.

31 posted on 07/30/2025 3:31:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

What if the spying is done via advertiser keyword combinations and not TikTok itself?


32 posted on 07/30/2025 3:32:03 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MinorityRepublican
Tik-Tok has NO REDEEMING SOCIAL VALUE.

IMHO, it won't be missed (except by woke and social justice warriors, trying to make $$$$ with silliness).

Someone will come up with an alternative, so the silliness can continue.

33 posted on 07/30/2025 3:37:39 PM PDT by traditional2 ("Is it them, again, Yogi?")
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Tik-Tok has NO REDEEMING SOCIAL VALUE.

That's your opinion.

TikTok and Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter helped Trump to return to the Wnite House in 2024.

Otherwise, it would have been impossible to get the message out.

34 posted on 07/30/2025 3:41:05 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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“Two problems with the American version of TikTok..It won’t have the algorithm.”

That is why it has be sold whole to American buyers, and two of the different groups of investor buyers have plans to quickly revise the algorithm to their own standard, hacking out any CCP hacking stuff currently in there. The American buyers do not even want TikTok unless they are free to modify the algorithm.

TikTok loses its U.S. market and those in the U.S. on TikTok or those TicTok accounts depending on U.S. customers and ads, are going to move to Facebook, Youtube, Instagram ect. As they do TikTok CCP global will become a diminishing brand.


35 posted on 07/30/2025 3:46:01 PM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: Wuli
That is why it has be sold whole to American buyers.

I don't see that happening.

U.S. customers and ads, are going to move to Facebook, Youtube, Instagram ect.

Facebook is ancient. YouTube serves a separate niche.

Instagram is losing popularity.

36 posted on 07/30/2025 3:53:54 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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Instagram has about 2 billion monthly users.

Youtube is raking in the highest portion of ad revenue.

Facebook and Youtube are more profitiable than TikToc.

What TikTok has can be duplicated, including its operstional model for content creation ect.


37 posted on 07/30/2025 4:13:15 PM PDT by Wuli (uire)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Twitter/Musk; YES

Tik-tok no way

38 posted on 07/30/2025 4:18:33 PM PDT by traditional2 ("Is it them, again, Yogi?")
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To: traditional2
Twitter/Musk; YES

Tik-tok no way

Trump team was actually more effective on getting the word out on TikTok.

His surrogates including Elon Musk and Charlie Kirk did a good job of making the case on why we should vote for Trump on X.

39 posted on 07/30/2025 4:28:48 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

Shut it all down. Apps like TikTok are a mind cancer. It’s digital ADHD.


40 posted on 07/30/2025 5:21:42 PM PDT by Sparticus
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