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Trump says 'very disappointed' with Putin
Baha Breaking News ^ | 7/13/2025 | Christian Baha

Posted on 07/13/2025 4:51:40 PM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: USA-FRANCE; tennmountainman
Ukrainians managed to retake nearly 50% of territory Russia initially stole in Ukraine.

LOLOL!!!

As part of the Istanbul negotiations, the Russians withdrew from large areas of The Ukraine.

BoJo The Clown [Boris "The Total Johnson" Johnson] then interjected his clown act into the talks.

61 posted on 07/13/2025 6:55:01 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: thefactor

I’m not using it to show who the Neocons are, Wikipedia is. Go take it up with them if you don’t like it.

And why so emotional, it’s just A TERM for a type of people, and I’m not calling you that term. It just happens to be the PERFECT TERM to describe the kind of thinking that created the Ukraine War, right down to the INSTIGATOR herself.


62 posted on 07/13/2025 6:56:45 PM PDT by BobL
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To: USA-FRANCE

Ukies didn’t take Jack Back.
Ruzzia withdrew Froggy.
But…. If 100,000 French Surrender Monkeys were deployed to help YouCrayne
Ruzzian would be running for their lives. LOL


63 posted on 07/13/2025 7:00:01 PM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: BobL

I gotta tell ya Bob, this is strange. All I did was ask you to define what you believe a Neocon is, and you’ve done everything but. You used the term, but you simply won’t tell me what you think it means. It’s absolutely weird.


64 posted on 07/13/2025 7:00:06 PM PDT by thefactor
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To: thefactor

“You used the term, but you simply won’t tell me what you think it means.”

So you REALLY need me to copy and paste the Wikipedia definition, because that’s my definition? I’ve been QUITE CLEAR about that.


65 posted on 07/13/2025 7:02:01 PM PDT by BobL
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My shorthand for a neocon is Leon Trotsky.

All war, all the time.

“You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you,” wrote Leon Trotsky.


66 posted on 07/13/2025 7:03:05 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: BobL

“Вы можете не интересоваться войной, но война интересуется вами”


67 posted on 07/13/2025 7:05:09 PM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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I define a Neocon as someone who wants to use war to export the American way of life to other countries. Those people no longer exist in the Republican party. There are Democrats who use taxpayer dollars to export American culture by funding trans surgeries and gay pride parades in Ecuador and other countries, but I don't count them as Neocons, obviously.

I'm fine with war. It's in our nature. But I have no interest in exporting American democracy to people who have no interest in it. I'm fine with giving money and weapons to allies including Ukraine and Israel. They are both fighting enemies of the US. But our goal in defeating Iran and Hamas and Russia is not to force them to become Americanized. That's what a Neocon would want. Those people no longer control any part of the US government.

68 posted on 07/13/2025 7:11:01 PM PDT by thefactor
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“I define a Neocon as someone who wants to use war to export the American way of life to other countries.”

That’s fine, call it what you want. You didn’t ask me to read your mind, so I told you MY definition, which matches the Wikipedia definition.


69 posted on 07/13/2025 7:13:22 PM PDT by BobL
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Jesus Christ, Bob. You could’ve just cut and pasted a definition. Instead you sent me a huge wikipedia page to wade through. In the future, if YOU use a term and someone asks you for your definition of that term, just give them your personal definition. Sending wiki links makes you look like you have no idea what you’re talking about and you just heard someone say ‘Neocon’ and thought it sounded cool.


70 posted on 07/13/2025 7:22:14 PM PDT by thefactor
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*How about if that child is a bloodthirsty maniac war criminal?*

Simple you kill him. Doing that to Putin is no option.


71 posted on 07/13/2025 7:54:54 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Despite His Change in Tone, Trump Still Sees Putin as a Negotiating Partner and Zelensky as the Main Obstacle to a Peace Deal: REPORT

“But while Trump’s rhetoric has raised some hopes in Europe of a potential shift in his attitude, two senior officials involved in defense and security negotiations with Washington said there was still little tangible evidence of the White House taking a more pro-Kiev stance.

Western allies of Ukraine were still assuming Trump was predisposed to seeing Putin as his main negotiating partner in any settlement and Zelensky as the primary obstacle to a workable peace deal, the officials said.”

72 posted on 07/13/2025 8:33:04 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: marcusmaximus

Trump gave Putin many chances.


73 posted on 07/14/2025 3:43:43 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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