Posted on 05/05/2025 7:15:01 PM PDT by MtnClimber
My prior truck was a 2006 Frontier. Transmission blew up at 150K. (2005 and 2006 had a problem) My 2000 Frontier made it to 212K and only got rid of it because I needed 4WD.
“I will never own a vehicle with that stop start crap ...”
Wife’s Honda has it. But it’s easy to keep it from shutting down by using a light foot on the brake when stopped.
Got my money’s worth out of the Frontier, I split miles between it and my 2016 F150. Got a guy who wants the Ford, he says 2016 is a good year for them. But it’s only got 72k so he’s not getting it. Both are 4wd. I am tempted to dump both and get a midsize but if I go through all that I want a lot of horsepower just for fun.
I switched to Toyota about 22 years ago, have never repaired one thing on any of them, except Batteries and Tires. Change the oil every 5000 or 6 months and don't forget it. I have mixed feelings about changing all the other fluids and transmission but The Car Care Nut on YouTube is a very good source, as is the hand waver Scotty Kilmer.
I still have a 2001 Ford Expedition with about 180,00 miles that runs very smooth to be honest.
To be honest Cadillac started messing around with the 4-6-8 engine over 40 years ago.
And they were a disaster then too.
I have a 2022 Highlander with the V6 engine anything after that uses the turbocharged 4 cylinder which I would avoid because the engine is overworked to try and meet café standards. Better to get a used one even at 100,000 or more miles.
When I was a kid you looked at any car with over 25,000 as needing a valve job or something or it wouldn't be on the lot, it was a rare car that got to 100,000 miles in the late 40's or early 50's.
Same on Toyota, just takes getting used to it. Stop and start during the Summer in Tucson, insane.
Exactly, Toyota is having their share of problems lately. Loved my ‘92 pickup for 225,000 miles. I have a 2010 Tundra with 79000 miles (WFH is great!). Think I’ll hang on to it a while yet.
“... do not go beyond 5000, even with synthetic”
Yup. Tried that on my last ‘06 Corolla after 400K miles. I stretched it out to 10K between synthetic changes. Even used molybdenum disulfide additive. Within a year the engine got sloppy, becoming harder to start. Luckily (I guess) I was rear ended last year allowing me to replace it with another 06 at the cost of the salvage payment. Now I stick with 5K/Synth per change.
At a certain point down the road, you might not have a choice. That said, I recently bought a base model BMW with a mild hybrid system. It replaces the conventional starter and I never hear it at stop lights. When stopped, it keeps AC/heat running and provides a boost to the engine when accelerating from a stop. I can disable this feature and keep the car running, but it has to be disabled each time the car starts. I can't tell the difference from a noise standpoint in either mode. Admittedly, the mild hybrid system is just another thing to go wrong. Just something to explore if you go car hunting..
My Dad had one back in the day. It caused major headaches on a couple of family vacations. It would vapor lock under certain weather conditions if my memory serves me correctly..
Since long before the internet existed, long enough to know the previous spelling and the current one.
Why do you ask?
“Buy a Toyota and smile.”
Not anymore...
Have you read about the 100,000 plus twin turbo V-6’s that were recalled?
This crap engine replaced their bulletproof V-8’s in the giant Tundra and other vehicles.
My ‘87 Supra Turbo 6 cyl made it to 300,000 miles when i sold it and probably ent many more miles.
Their new 6 turbo 6’s not so much..
It’s a design error, not oil or thin oil.
My ‘13 Prius and ‘17 RAV4 Toyotas have 480K miles between the two of them. Both bought new and oil changes at every 10K as recommended by Toyota using 0W-20 synthetic oil. Neither car needs added oil between changes. Only repair so far was a weeping water pump on the RAV4, that’s it.
I have read also that there may be an issue with some engines that the lifter bore diameter may exceed tolerances. I don't know for sure, but it could be that there is an oil pressure drop due to this with low viscosity oil. An oversize lifter bore diameter would be a manufacturing issue, not a design issue. It is something that Quality Control should have caught.
This L87 engine produces 420 horsepower and 460 lb-ft of torque and is used in trucks with 13,000 lb towing capacity so it is not a light engine like a Prius or a RAV-4. I used to have a Toyota 4-Runner and had 250k miles when I traded it in and had no real engine problems. But I could only tow light loads.
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