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What Does Islam Teach about Jesus and the Crucifixion?
Greek Reporter ^ | April 14, 2025 | Caleb Howells

Posted on 04/14/2025 2:30:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Jonty30

That’s from the false gospel of Barnabas, rather than the Koran.


21 posted on 04/14/2025 5:02:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

It is the argument that Muslims use to explain why Christ was not crucified.


22 posted on 04/14/2025 5:05:47 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I can promise I can land any plane that is in the air, because gravity only moves in one direction.)
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To: Ikeon
If Islam says “ Jesus was a prophet” why doesn't islam follow to his words?

In the gospels, Jesus announces that he is Messiah. Jesus proclaims himself, the I am, a name for God. Jesus proclaims that He and the Father God are one. Jesus proclaims that 'he who sees me, sees the Father (God).

As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased.” - Gospel of Matthew

Islam is the spirit of anti-Christ. Like any anti-Christ group, they reject the gospels or claim they are not an accurate protrayal of Jesus.

"Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son." - 1 John 2:22

23 posted on 04/14/2025 5:09:41 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Jonty30

I’m aware of that. It just doesn’t come from any of the writings they insist are authoritative, whether Koran or Hadith.


24 posted on 04/14/2025 5:16:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Yes, they aren’t drawing from the Bible for their conclusion. Human reasoning.

One of my responses to them is citing the verse from the Quran, where Muhammad affirms the Bible. So what the Bible says, goes.


25 posted on 04/14/2025 5:21:50 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I can promise I can land any plane that is in the air, because gravity only moves in one direction.)
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To: nickcarraway
About six centuries later, an Arab named Muhammad founded Islam

There is no historical proof that Muhammad was a historical figure, and much to suggest he was a fictional creation: Islamic Theologian’s Theory: It’s Likely the Prophet Muhammad Never Existed
26 posted on 04/14/2025 5:27:20 PM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Jonty30

Dr. David Wood calls that the “Islamic Dilemma”.

The Koran affirms the authority of the Bible as it was back then and as we have it now—and yet the Koran is antithetical to the Bible on just about every point of doctrine, so the Mahometan scholars and clerics have to claim that the very Bible that the Koran affirms has been “corrupted” without any evidence to back that up.

Therefore, if the Bible is true, then obviously the Koran is false—but if the Bible is false, then the Koran is also false.


27 posted on 04/14/2025 5:28:55 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: nickcarraway

https://www.faithfacts.org/world-religions-and-theology/jesus-unique-in-quran-and-bible


28 posted on 04/14/2025 5:33:56 PM PDT by grumpa
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To: Olog-hai

Also, they can’t claim the Bible was corrupted later on because the only Bible we have in its final form was finalized at the Council of Nicaea, 350 years before the arrival of Islam.


29 posted on 04/14/2025 5:39:32 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I can promise I can land any plane that is in the air, because gravity only moves in one direction.)
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To: Jonty30

Indeed; it’d be the same Bible that was present in both Mecca and Medina.


30 posted on 04/14/2025 5:49:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: nickcarraway
For this reason, Christianity could be considered as an offshoot of Judaism.

If you really want to look at it, "Christians" are literally just Jews that believe the savior is Christ. "Jews" are just Jews that didn't think it was him so they're still waiting for their savior.
31 posted on 04/14/2025 6:19:28 PM PDT by Svartalfiar (-)
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To: nickcarraway

Islam was founded by a person, Mohammed who was a fictional character.


32 posted on 04/14/2025 6:28:17 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: nickcarraway

Islam was founded by a person, Mohammed who was a fictional character.


33 posted on 04/14/2025 6:28:27 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts
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To: Olog-hai
Dr. David Wood calls that the “Islamic Dilemma”. The Koran affirms the authority of the Bible as it was back then and as we have it now—and yet the Koran is antithetical to the Bible on just about every point of doctrine, so the Mahometan scholars and clerics have to claim that the very Bible that the Koran affirms has been “corrupted” without any evidence to back that up. Therefore, if the Bible is true, then obviously the Koran is false—but if the Bible is false, then the Koran is also false.

Yes. And Islam's specific teaching on Jesus completely fatally discredits itself. They teach that Jesus was a human prophet and a good teacher, but nothing more. However, Jesus describes himself as The Messiah; stating, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and nobody comes to the Father except through Me." If Islam's take on Jesus is accurate, then Jesus is the absolute worse false prophet, but they declare Jesus as a good prophet. Like C.S. Lewis said, Jesus is either Lunatic, Liar, or Lord. Thus, Islam is a false religion.

34 posted on 04/14/2025 7:04:48 PM PDT by awelliott (What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....)
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To: nickcarraway

Islam is essentially a mirror image of Christianity - like the Star Trek episode where they met their evil twins. It’s almost as if, Satan having been defeated at the resurrection, countered with his own religion to sow confusion and hatred.


35 posted on 04/14/2025 7:05:35 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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To: HonorInPa
Poorly written paragraph.

The whole piece is written poorly.

36 posted on 04/14/2025 7:16:51 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: HonorInPa
I usually stop at "C.E."/"CE".

(But, just to really get on their nerves.. I changed their definition of CE & BCE to "Christian Era" and "Before Christian Era".)
37 posted on 04/14/2025 9:34:12 PM PDT by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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