Posted on 04/12/2025 7:48:30 AM PDT by millenial4freedom
The whole idea of deindustrialization is driven by the dwindling number of good pay and benefits jobs for unskilled barely literate/numerate workers. The US is still setting manufacturing output records. But with fewer and fewer workers just like farming jobs. Automation and advanced manufacturing techniques coupled with massive capital investment keeps dwindling the number of manual laborers. The industry jobs of yore are never ever coming back no matter how many factories are re-shored.
Tariffs will not help our manufacturing base. There are far more jobs in steel fabrication then steel making which means cheap steel yield more jobs in fabricating. Raise steel prices preserves a few jobs in steel making but cost far jobs in fabricating.
Good point. So what is the actual cost of the phone at the point of importation, on which the tariffs are applied?
What are you talking about?
We desperately need the pincer action tariffing cheap imports and sending home 10s of millions of illegal workers.
Because our working class hasn’t benefited at all from our rise in productivity. (If it had, beginning wages would be approximately 2.5x higher than they are.)
Still lots of jobs from producing stuff here — and fatally vulnerable supply chains that China will surely exploit if we don’t bring them home.
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From Grok...
*The cost for Apple to manufacture an iPhone in China varies by model, but recent estimates suggest the bill of materials (BOM) and assembly for the iPhone 16 series ranges from about $416 to $485 for models like the iPhone 16 and iPhone 16 Pro Max (256GB). This includes components like the display, processor, camera, and battery, plus labor and factory overhead. For example, the iPhone 16 Pro Max has a production cost around $485, with key components like the display and camera module each costing about $80. Labor costs are relatively low, estimated at $10–30 per unit, as assembly is done by partners like Foxconn, where workers earn roughly $10/hour on average.”
So 125% tariff would raise the cost of an iPhone by about $500!
Yup. Regardless, the market will adapt. The kids will have to wait for their new iPhone 17 and Dad’s 85” tv.
per Stephen Miller on X these products are already subject to 20% tariff under IEPPA still in force.
We have 3.9% unemployment. Who do you think is going to take these Chinese jobs when they arrive here? Or do you think we should only take back high paying jobs like iPhone manufacturing?
We’ve got loads of discouraged and potential workers that don’t count in the official unemployment figures, and jobs that need to pay more (or perhaps be phased out otherwise).
They'll take us as seriously as the extra money coming out of their pockets. That's all the "seriously" we should want.
I’ve been in a few business negotiations, not a lot, but we never had paper in front of us. Paper always came after the deal.
We’ve got loads of discouraged and potential workers that don’t count in the official unemployment figures, and jobs that need to pay more (or perhaps be phased out otherwise).
I can see you haven’t tried to hire anyone lately. I have. Good luck finding people who will even routinely show up for a job not at a desk. The bottom 1/3rd or so of the labor force is, frankly, pathetic. That’s on them and nothing else. Raise wages and they will still suck.
Pay better and you’ll find better employees. Jeesh!
Wrong. Pay better and you’ll still get the same drunks and addicts floating through life from job to job. They’ll just have more money for drugs and booze before they get fired.
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