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The Kennedy Assassination And The Persistence Of Conspiracy Theories -- Part III
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 26 Mar, 2025 | Francis Menton

Posted on 03/27/2025 4:30:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber

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To: redfreedom

If you were in the ‘Snipers Nest’ and you watched the flow of Traffic coming at You Before it made the Left hand turn towards the Grassy Knoll a Lone Nut would have taken the shot Before the Limo turned.
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I’ve been to the ‘Sixth Floor Museum’ and
It would have been shooting Fish in a Barrel-—one could take Out EverOne !
Take out the driver——Blood Bath.
No Joke.
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41 posted on 03/27/2025 8:26:46 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: mfish13

You’ve spent time in the ‘Snippers Nest’?


42 posted on 03/27/2025 8:28:25 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: nagant

Ford and the man who came up with the Magic Bullett theory Senator Arlen Spector both became historical figures. How convenient the windshield was replaced so quickly. The three hobos (one was Woody Harrelson’s father a known assassin, another was a CIA man) who were arrested and just disappeared.


43 posted on 03/27/2025 8:41:19 PM PDT by Metrobank
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To: Big Red Badger

You can stand right next to the sniper’s nest in the museum. Have you been there?


44 posted on 03/28/2025 12:08:14 AM PDT by mfish13 (Elections have Consequences.)
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To: redfreedom

If you can not require you target in a properly set up rifle with a scope on.

You need more practice.

Just because you can not do it doesn’t mean others can not do it.


45 posted on 03/28/2025 3:41:35 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: mfish13

Spent a Day there,Yes.
Triple Overpass, Grassy Knoll and snippers nest. It was very informative and seemed smaller when you are standing on the spot of JFK’S murder-—that was the late 1980’s, nothing has changed.


46 posted on 03/28/2025 4:51:05 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: riverrunner

I never said I could not acquire a target with a scope.

What I said is that it takes longer to acquire a target with a scope than it does with open sights.

We are talking 2.3 seconds to cycle a bolt, acquire the moving target, compensate for a scope that’s not zeroed in, and pull the trigger. At 88 yards a scope is not really needed. An 88 yard shot can be easily done with open sights and the target alignment with the sights is much faster.

And again, we are not talking about a guy that gets in lots of range time (Oswald), who was a minimal shooter to begin with, using a scope that was not properly zeroed.

I just got these results from a Bing search: Question: Was Oswald’s scope properly zeroed? Bings Answer: According to the FBI, Oswalds rifle scope was so misaligned that they had to place metal shims under the scope in order to be able to zero-in the rifle. And no shims were ever found among Oswalds possessions.

He supposedly got some range time in before the assassination. He then should have known the scope was off and how much to compensate for for so many yards.

Oswald was a minimal shooter, meaning he only scored the entry level of marksman in the Corp. He likely seldom went to the range to get used to handling weapons. He likely qualified in the Corp with the M1 Garand, which was a much better weapon than the Carano. Boot camp training of the era used man sized targets for qualifying. The assassination required hitting a target the size of a volley ball.

An experienced shooter, once he realized the scope could not be zeroed, would have thrown the damn scope away and used open sights, shimmed the scope or simply got a better rifle.


47 posted on 03/28/2025 4:57:17 AM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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To: MtnClimber

Oswald was a fellow with un-self-disciplined “smarts.” Not allowing himself time, to add experience that “hardens wood" - he quit in frustration, from jobs, as he did not progress as fast as he wished.

He imagined what each path would be, but then soured on what the path proved to be.

Oswald saw pros and cons of communism, and in other political forms; for him, the grass was always greener on some other side.

He lied a lot. He also read a lot. He liked - sometimes - to toy with people whom he figured did not know as much as he believed that he knew.

After the sojourn to Russia, back in the U.S.A. with his wife, Marina, and baby daughter, June, he was always worried about not being able to support them. In the fall of 1963, along came another baby. Prior to that, he had a long history through parts of 1962 and 1963 of beating his wife, Marina.

His impatience finally overwhelmed him, and he decided in 1963, to force his way to a higher station - that of government or public perception of him.

In March of 1963, Oswald had purchased the pistol and the rifle and kept them stored.

Oswald used the rifle, in an attempt to accelerate his importance (gain fame) and assassinate General Edwin Walker in Texas. Oswald barely missed his target in April 1963.

Oswald had tried in the fall of 1963, to gain favor with both the Cuban government and the Russian government, by visiting the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City. He was rejected - the Cubans in particular, did not trust him and refused the necessary visa that was required for travel to Cuba. Oswald returned to the U.S.A.

He visited a Texas government employment agency and read the newspapers to find work.

On Monday [October 14, 1963], [a friend] Mrs. Paine mentioned the Oswalds' financial and employment problems to neighbors whom she was visiting. Mrs. Linnie Mac Randle, who was also present, remarked that she thought that her younger brother, Buell Wesley Frazier, who worked at the Texas School Book Depository, had said that there was a job opening there.

When Marina heard of this, she asked Mrs. Paine to call the Depository to see if there was an opening. Mrs. Paine called Roy S. Truly, superintendent of the Depository, who indicated that he would talk to Oswald if he would apply in person.

When Oswald telephoned the Paine house on Monday evening, Mrs. Paine told him about this possibility.

On the next day [Tuesday, October 15, 1963], Oswald was interviewed by [Roy S.] Truly and hired in a temporary capacity. He began work on Wednesday, October 16. His duties were to fill book orders; his hours were 8 a.m. to 4:45 p.m., for which he received $1.25 an hour.

Source for much of that info:

Appendix 13: Biography of Lee Harvey Oswald
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix-13.html

48 posted on 03/28/2025 5:35:13 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: riverrunner
JFK Assassination Records, Chapter 4
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html

Page 191 - [EXCERPT:]

Oswald's Marine Training

In accordance with standard Marine procedures, Oswald received extensive training in marksmanship. During the first week of an intensive 8-week training period he received instruction in sighting, aiming, and manipulation of the trigger.

He went through a series of exercises called dry firing where he assumed all positions which would later be used in the qualification course. After familiarization with live ammunition in the .22 rifle and .22 pistol, Oswald, like all Marine recruits, received training on the rifle range at distances up to 500 yards, firing 50 rounds each day for five days.

Following that training, Oswald was tested in December of 1956, and obtained a score of 212, which was 2 points above the minimum for qualifications as a "sharpshooter" in a scale of marksman--sharpshooter--expert.

In May of 1959, on another range, Oswald scored 191, which was 1 point over the minimum for ranking as a "marksman."

The Marine Corps records maintained on Oswald further show that he had fired and was familiar with the Browning Automatic rifle, .45 caliber pistol, and 12-gage riot gun.

Page 194 [EXCERPT - regarding the rifle scope defect]:

Three FBI firearms experts tested the [Mannlicher-Carcano] rifle in order to determine the speed with which it could be fired. The purpose of this experiment was not to test the rifle under conditions which prevailed at the time of the assassination but to determine the maximum speed at which it could be fired.

The three FBI experts each fired three shots from the weapon at 15 yards in 6, 7, and 9 seconds, and one of these agents, Robert A. Frazier, fired two series of three shots at 25 yards in 4.6 and 4.8 seconds.808 At 15 yards each man's shots landed within the size of a dime.809

The shots fired by Frazier at the range of 25 yards landed within an area of 2 inches and 5 inches respectively.810 Frazier later fired four groups of three shots at a distance of 100 yards in 5.9, 6.2, 5.6, and 6.5 seconds.

Each series of three shots landed within areas ranging in diameter from 3 to 5 inches.811

Although all of the shots were a few inches high and to the right of the target., this was because of a defect in the scope which was recognized by the FBI agents and which they could have compensated for if they were aiming to hit a bull's-eye.812

They were instead firing to determine how rapidly the weapon could be fired and the area within which three shots could be placed.

Frazier testified that while he could not tell when the defect occurred, but that a person familiar with the weapon could compensate for it.813

Moreover, the defect was one which would have assisted the assassin aiming at a target which was moving away.

Frazier said, "The fact that the crosshairs are set high would actually compensate for any lead which had to be taken. So that if you aimed with this weapon as it actually was received at the laboratory, it would not be necessary to take any lead whatsoever in order to hit the intended object. The scope would accomplish the lead for you."

Frazier added that the scope would cause a slight miss to the right. It should be noted, however, that the President's car was curving slightly to the right when the third shot was fired.


49 posted on 03/28/2025 6:13:18 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: redfreedom

What I said is that a practice person with a properly set up scope.

Is as fast or faster the iron sights.

Just because you can not do does not mean cannot.


50 posted on 03/28/2025 7:01:29 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: South Dakota

Kill shot from grassy knoll, hole in windshield from storm drain in front of car.

One shooter grassy knoll, one storm drain, one from building next to School Book Depository, which was the Dallas Police headquarters and then School Book Depsoitory.

4 shots


51 posted on 03/28/2025 2:47:53 PM PDT by stockpirate (A group of baboons is referred to as a "Congress" of baboons.)
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To: riverrunner

And Oswald was not a “practice person”. And his scope was not properly set up.

He is the subject here.


52 posted on 03/28/2025 7:55:35 PM PDT by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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To: linMcHlp

“Slighty to the RIGHT!?!”
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NO it was fading LEFT !
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What a mess, Totally.


53 posted on 04/02/2025 7:16:05 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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