Posted on 02/24/2025 1:01:28 PM PST by Az Joe
Hitler considered them sub-human, too. At least he did until surprised by their performance at Stalingrad.
A Russian can pull a locomotive, eat rocks, and take hard times by the horn
Plus they wash their balls with ice water.
That would have been genocide.
Nobody among the leaders in the Allied camp would have donned this mantle, I believe.
Or would they? That would vindicate the theories I have heard about the Anglo-Saxon genes and ethnic psyche. Theories I considered to be as preposterous as to be without foundation in fact.
With all due respect, that is an absurd thing to say. Only way the Morgenthau Plan would be “genocide” is if all Germanic people in continental Europe were literally murdered by it.
And what “theories” did you hear, and from whom? You broached them, so I am curious if you would elaborate.
I hope you at least agree that one of the biggest post-WWII mistakes was allowing the European Coal and Steel Union to form (which morphed into today’s EU). That and allowing Konrad Adenauer to lead the original Bundesrepublik Deutschland (formerly called “West Germany” among English speakers).
Well, a country like Germany couldn’t have lived on agrarian products alone. Had this been attempted, an estimated 15-20 million would have died.
And what a few Europeans said about the Anglo-Saxons, are pseudoscientific theories. Hardly anyone takes this baloney at face value, with the exception of this one internet forum.
They said that the Anglo-Saxons were not really humans but rather, demons in human bodies. Their essence would be lying, slander and ultimately, genocide.
It’s a reversal of Ww2 propaganda, in essence, but even worse. They took quotes from forums like FR, or arrse.com, or the Morgenthau plan, or the Kaufman plan, and then maintained that all Anglo-Saxons were like this, and all they said about the Germans or Nazis, the Anglo-Saxons were themselves, just worse.
Not a Single one of them, they said, had even a single shred of humanity within them. All they knew - they said - was lying, cheating, killing, looting, raping, conquest, torture and genocide. And then lying some more to conceal all of it. Concepts of „love“ or „charity“ were utterly alien to them, all they knew were sexual lust, for otherwise they could not multiply. Their words, not mine.
Long speech, short sense, to them the Anglo-Saxon race was a Satanic, an Asuric lifeform and not human.
Just like some refer to us as „krauts“, the Anglo-Saxons were referred to as „Angloscum“ „Western animals“ „Satan‘s spawn“ „Nonhumans“ „Pseudohumans“ „Blood guzzlers“ „Eaters of infants‘ hearts“ and such stuff.
Needless to say, they also maintained that the Anglo-Saxon race, should be exterminated to the last child and baby.
I had heard such statements before, but always in relation to my people, never to others, except recently towards the Palestinians.
That was the most grotesque Internet forum, on which I lurked. After a while, I became a member and told them the story of my infant mother, whom, in 1945, a young American soldier gave a packet of powdered milk. That would have been illegal under Allied law in those days, so he was a kind-hearted and brave man, refuting these preposterous theories.
Well, before I was kicked out of the forum, after being on there for just a few minutes, another member said that this young soldier must have been of German, Italian, African American, Jewish or Polish extraction, since no Anglo-Saxon would have been capable of such a work of kindness.
An Anglo-Saxon, he continued, would have ripped my mother out of her mother’s arms, killed her and sliced out the baby‘s heart, eating it raw and chuckling with glee at the same time. Then he said, what the bleep I would have expected from a citizen of a country which was founded upon genocide, slavery and mayhem, and whether I had been smoking drugs.
I said to him that he had to be certifiably insane. A few seconds later, my account was deactivated. I sat there, dumbfounded and with my heart racing
Never have I come across a more dreadful internet site in my life. It’s gone now, having been hosted in Hongkong or something. But I still shudder when I think about it. These people, while just a handful, were more dreadful than anything else I had ever heard being uttered in all seriousness.
Even now, the sheer thought of that horror it makes my heart murmur act up again. Sorry for talking straight about it.
And about the Coal and Steel Union, I would like to do another reply, as I have to take my heart medicine now…
Sounds like the result of Adenauer unilaterally declaring de-Nazification to be over in 1949 and granting his amnesty from that year to 1951.
I don’t know where you get the impression that the Morgenthau plan would have reduced the Germanic lands to backwards agrarianism. Certainly industries dedicated to militarism were targeted. Anything that you might have heard may have come from the NSDAP itself, since they mischaracterized the suggestion (calling it a “plan” is actually a misnomer) to the point where they were able to convince the people to keep fighting.
Well, that’s what I heard, and what I was taught in school. And my history teacher was your stereotypical leftist Boomer.
Still, I have been told that Henry Morgenthau jr. sometimes was known for a certain agrarian romanticism. Some persons who met him, and wrote down their recollections of his person, maintained that some of his ideas were really strange. Among them was Moritz J. Bonn (1873-1965) a German economist and professor in Munich and Bonn, who in 1919 accompanied the German delegation at Versailles. Later, Bonn had to leave Germany when Hitler came to power and spent the remainder of his life in the US and England.
In his autobiography „Wandering scholar“ he gave his impressions of both Morgenthau Sr. And Jr. In his opinion, he son was much less of a personage than the father.
And about the denazification, yes, from today‘s POV it might not have been thorough enough, but there were no other candidates for many posts, with 12,1 per cent of the male population dead.
That’s what often gets overlooked, and believe me: I have lurked at British forums, and the talked about us just the same way as the Nazis did about the Jews.
Not a single doubt was voiced on the official narratives - I always found that funny, as I never have seen such slavish devotion to a narrative or an ideology, and that includes all the Nazis I ever knew. Many of them were indeed bitterly saddened by all the horrors they had inflicted, and lived withdrawn lives until they passed.
The only other exception to this rule are the leftists, none of whom ever expressed the slightest remorse about the millions of deaths under Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot etc.
It seemed that these particular British forum users would have done well with a „decontamination“ of their minds…
Sorry about that,
I think I just replied to the last entry in the discussion
Sorry about that,
I think I just replied to the last entry in the discussion
Yes, and it did play a role in Nazi propaganda, though the role of the country being invaded was more effective.
And, if you have ever read the effusions of British (and also American) dehumanizing propaganda in World War One, the idea of the Anglo-Saxons as a totally amoral, utterly devious and evil lifeform didn’t seem too far fetched to some Germans.
Obviously, a handful still believe in it, although most probably less than one-tenth of a percent. Good.
Examples of said “dehumanizing propaganda”?
Well, a search with „American propaganda World War One“ will turn up many items. 🙂
As for the British effort, the first major atrocity propaganda since the Thirty Years‘ War, there is this article.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_propaganda_during_World_War_I
Still, all of it was so over the top that in 1924, Prime Minister Lloyd George issued an apology to the German nation. He was a good, honest man at heart.
And interestingly, that is why in the Second Great Unpleasantness, such atrocity propaganda was not resumed. Sadly, though, this helped to discredit the reports of escapees from occupied Europe on the fate of the Jews. The Karski report comes to mind. At first, many politicians likened this and similar reports to the boy crying wolf.
Another, not so flattering factor was antisemitism among the citizens of the Allied nations. That’s the reason why allied propaganda in WW2 ultimately decided against using the genocide of the Jews as a means of anti-German propaganda. They feared that too many individuals on the Allied side would begin to sympathize with the Axis on account of their own anti-Semitism. It was not until the camps were liberated that they had been right this time…
Unfortunately, some people today still take thie WW One atrocity propaganda at face value, obviously, but they may be somehow mentally aberrant.
Some don’t seem to know that propaganda has (usually) nothing or nearly nothing to do with facts. Propaganda, by its very nature, is applied to elicit an emotional response, not a rational one.
Well, but so am I, though I don’t believe in that propaganda stuff.
Okay, but I was asking for stuff that is particularly “dehumanizing”.
A lot of the WWI posters from the USA had a rather communistic look. That doesn’t surprise me, given that Woodrow Wilson was a leftist.
A lot of the WWI posters from the USA had a rather communistic look. That doesn’t surprise me, given that Woodrow Wilson was a leftist.
Goebbels learned his craft from studying George Creel and Edward Benays WWI Propaganda.
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