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FBI Director Kash Patel to be named ATF chief
NBC ^ | Feb 23 | By Yamiche Alcindor, Ryan J. Reilly and Nnamdi Egwuonwu

Posted on 02/23/2025 6:35:17 AM PST by RandFan

President Donald Trump's newly-confirmed FBI director, Kash Patel, is expected to take on another top law enforcement role in the administration as head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, according to a White House official and two other sources familiar with the plan.

Patel's appointment could be made official as soon as next week with a swearing-in ceremony, the sources said.

The ATF, a law enforcement agency housed in the Department of Justice, is responsible for enforcing federal laws regarding the illegal use, sale and trafficking of firearms and explosives, as well as the illegal diversion of alcohol and tobacco products.

It has been a frequent target of Republican lawmakers who perceive the agency as infringing on the Second Amendment, particularly as former President Joe Biden empowered it to regulate the sale of "ghost guns" and close a loophole that eased the process of buying a firearm.

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To: RandFan

Over-under


21 posted on 02/23/2025 7:41:40 AM PST by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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To: RandFan

Make the libs heads explode, give him CIA, NSC, Secret Service and all the others.

Make Kash Director Of Alphabet Soup . . .


22 posted on 02/23/2025 7:42:27 AM PST by MCSETots
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To: RandFan

Get rid of the ATF.


23 posted on 02/23/2025 7:44:31 AM PST by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Because Trump is going to abolish the ATF. Might as well have Kash oversee ATF while it is being dismantled. There is no reason for the alcohol and tobacco part. The firearms (yes, 2A) and explosives could be melded into the FBI.


24 posted on 02/23/2025 7:49:58 AM PST by bgill
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To: nuconvert

Kash is just a holding marker until the ATF is shuttered.


25 posted on 02/23/2025 7:52:44 AM PST by bgill
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To: bgill

Alright, that sounds reasonable. Thanks :)


26 posted on 02/23/2025 7:57:59 AM PST by CaptainPhilFan (Donald J Trump: OF the People FOR the People WITH the People)
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To: RandFan

27 posted on 02/23/2025 8:02:39 AM PST by MacNaughton
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To: RandFan

Does this mean that we’ll be able to purchase silencers without spending a small fortune?


28 posted on 02/23/2025 8:11:05 AM PST by LastDayz (A Blunt and Brazen Texan. I Will Not Be Assimilated.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Or repurpose it as a convenience store.”

Excellent idea!

Whatever guns cops confiscate from criminals could be sold to the public at the ATF-C stores. The same with booze and cigarettes.


29 posted on 02/23/2025 8:21:52 AM PST by redfreedom (Happiness is shopping at Walmart and not hearing Spanish once!)
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To: RandFan; All
Thank you for posting RandFan.

"Probably the most unconstitutional and pointless agency in existence and that is saying something..."


ATF is an excellent example (imo) of the unconstitutional consequences of the federal government approach to administrative "improvement" by giving new, but questionably constitutional responsibilities to an existing department.

Note that St. George Tucker, a respected constitutional law expert in the time of the American Revolution, had lamented that the feds inappropriately applied common law in the name of administrative improvement, effectively unconstitutionally expanding the fed's constitutionally limited powers with a domino effect by doing so (my words).

"If it were, in fact, an unconstitutional exercise of power in congress to pass a law establishing the bank, nothing can manifest the impropriety of over-stepping the limits of the constitution, more than the act which we have just noticed. It shows that the most unauthorised acts of government may be drawn into precedents to justify other unwarrantable usurpations [emphasis added]." —Article 1, Section 8, Clause 6, St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries 1:App. 262--64, 1803.

Consider, for example, that the alcohol part of ATF should have disappeared when the 21st Amendment, which repealed the 18th Amendment (Prohibition), was ratified imo.

Regarding the "TF" of ATF, there has never been express constitutional power to regulate either tobacco (agriculture) or peacetime firearms. In fact, the Constitution expressly authorizes feds only to arm a particular group of people.

And you can be disarmed if you break a reasonably constitutionally based federal law.

30 posted on 02/23/2025 8:43:27 AM PST by Amendment10
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To: RandFan

ALL 3 items are legal-—IT IS USELESS.


31 posted on 02/23/2025 9:00:21 AM PST by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: RandFan

More that the Dept of Education?

Yeah, that’s bad.


32 posted on 02/23/2025 9:02:36 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

I wondered the same thing?

Isn’t one major position enough?

Unless the goal is to consolidate them and eliminate the ATF.


33 posted on 02/23/2025 9:04:30 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: LastDayz

Suppressor Fun Days Ahead!


34 posted on 02/23/2025 9:23:17 AM PST by Big Red Badger (ALL Things Will be Revealed !)
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To: RandFan

That may be what they are intending by by putting Kash in ATF and FBI.


35 posted on 02/23/2025 10:08:10 AM PST by vivenne (7Come to think of it. )
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To: RandFan

yep. three things the founders wanted to be free. alcohol tobacco and firearms. some of those guys were actually distilling their own liquor. Some of it on a commercial basis.


36 posted on 02/23/2025 12:30:22 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

Hopefully because they plan on slashing a bunch of jobs and focusing on laws that should be enforced.


37 posted on 02/23/2025 1:22:44 PM PST by clutzyfuzzy
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To: RandFan

Turn the ATF into a one-stop 7-11 shop with no permits required.


38 posted on 02/23/2025 9:03:27 PM PST by Salamander (Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRD)
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To: RandFan

Maybe the nonsense with SBRs and suppressors will finally be resolved.


39 posted on 02/24/2025 3:50:24 AM PST by Nifty
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To: RandFan

good idea!
#MAGA


40 posted on 02/24/2025 7:51:14 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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