Posted on 11/25/2024 4:11:54 AM PST by MtnClimber
T.B. Yoits wrote: “Yeah, the bonds stay intact. That’s why we see rain falling upwards back into the clouds.”
Water vapor is still water with the bonds intact.
Call your local TV station and speak with a meteorologist.
OH NOES! They made beer from recycled toilet water. Water treatment plants here treat and purify that water to purer than nature and some even give out bottles of the water on tours. I don’t know about the others but the Orange County Sanitation District has been pumping that purified water back into the aquifer for decades. California is not in a situation where we can just keep pouring water into the ocean.
Go to your local library and look up what a photon does to a water molecule.
Tertiary treated water is as pure as distilled water. It gets micro filtration , nano filtration. The first eliminates bacteria and protozoa the latter virus. Then it gets reverse osmosis which makes it distilled water with less than ppm levels of any dissolved molecules. Followed by active carbon to remove any VOC and pharmaceuticals that got past the RO. Finally UV-C light at levels where DNA is shattered should even the smallest nano virus get through all that.
There are already two West Texas towns which use toilet to tap water systems. They tertiary treat their main sewerage system outfall to bottle water standards and then pump it directly to the water tower for use. El Paso , San Diego and Albuquerque are all scheduled if not already doing tertiary treatment to direct reuse.
Many cities do indirect reuse of effluent. On a yearly average DFW water from the tap is 40% by volume reclamied water in the summer is 60% in dry years. Dallas,Plano Richardson,McKinney,Frisco all share a water system and conversely a sewerage system. 4 of 6 of those waste works outfall directly into the watershed of Lake Lavon the primary drinking water source for the North Texas Council of Governments water system. Those 4 hit streams and creeks up stream from the intake structure for the water treatment plant for portable use.
The other two plants are in the Trinity watershed....all of Fort Worth waste effluent enters the Trinity River up stream of Dallas County. The final Dallas waste water plant is on the Trinity River just to the south east of downtown Dallas. This being downstream from Ft Worth and the other main Dallas plant that outputs it’s effluent into a tributary then the Trinity River. A few miles down stream from the main Dallas sewerage plant is a pumping station taking 120,000 acrefeet per year out of that effluent into a constructed wetlands system. The water goes in brown as coffee and comes out the other end light yellow clear. It is then pumped yup you guessed it right back to Lake Lavon and used as drinking water.
This is known as indirect reuse and is common to nearly every major city in the USA. What Dallas doesn’t take out of the Trinity River goes down stream to Lake Livingston which is Houston’s main drinking water source so Houston is getting tens of thousands of acre feet per year of Dallas sewage treatment eeffluent, in dry times the Trinity River is nearly 100% effluent as it’s flows in a cubic foot per second basis.
I personally worked on one of the West Texas projects I am a hydrogeo.I also did a project where it was brine production wells desalination plant mixed with reclaimed water to dilute it down to drinking water standards.
Another project was taking sewerage system effluent after UV treatment and directly injecting it into underground aquifers up drip from portable water production wells. Gravity would move the reclaimed water down dip over a period of time using the natural rocks and bacteria underground to “clean” it. This is done in San Antonio, and San Diego, and L.A. Basin on a huge scale. Austin is looking to do this for parts of it’s Edwards aquifers area as well. Austin already outfalls into the Colorado River system and downstream has take points for portable water use, then Bastrop, Smithville and La Grange all pull water out for use here again in dry times half or more of the Colorado flows are effluent from Austin’s plants.
Drink up, ignorance is bliss.
Where do you live? There is a high probability your water system is already using reclaimed water via a number of reuse methods. Treatment plant to lake/river back to potable water is the norm now. Injection into underground aquifers is also main stream pun intended. Building new waste plants up stream of potable water lakes on purpose is industry practice now. Its standard in Texas for sure as every new plant is built with indirect reuse from the start of project.
Las Vegas is the text book example, I have done sediement and geochem work at Lake Mead specifically for reclaimed water quality monitoring. Las Vegas sewerage system every drop that hit’s a drain anywhere in the Las Vegas basin not just the city ends up in the Las Vegas Wash that flows directly to Lake Mead. Well first going under Lake Las Vegas but that is a whole other story. Not just all the blackwater from toilets but all the urban run off that hits storm sewers also ends up in the Las Vegas Wash. That’s why there are two huge tunnels under Lake Las Vegas to take that nasty water to Lake Mead where it flows out over the top of the denser cooler water coming down the Colorado River system.
Las Vegas has three levels of water intakes at Lake Mead the upper two are now out of the water as lake levels dropped the third is in the bathtub drain well below the dead pool level of Lake Mead they sunk it under the surface layer after testing showed all that reclaimed water was full of organics and it was getting hard for the potable plant to meet drinking standards. Vegas has purple pipes for golf course and park use that take reclaimed water directly from the outfalls to nonpotable use and also to injection wells in the basin to add water to the shallow aquifer that is used for casinos and AC cooling uses.
Point is for nearly two decades Vegas with it’s older shallower intakes which are down stream from the Las Vegas Wash were using recycled water in that surface layer. Once or twice a year every temperate lake has a water flip that mixes it’s cold deep waters with it’s warmer surface water above the thermocline so even with Vegas deeper intake once the mixing happens it still gets some of its water back. The Supreme Court ruled that in the Colorado River state inflows are not counted against a state’s compact allocated extraction acre feet and they can take back on a one for one acrefoot basis any inflows into that system. This means 40% of Las Vegas yearly water use is returned to Lake Mead and available for use again plus rainfall flows down the wash and also the Virgin River inflows too which on a given year is 100,000+ acre feet per year. Nevada gets 300,000 from the Colorado plus the Virgin River flows plus it’s effluent returned to Lake Mead. They have a ten year bank of water so far that’s 3,000,000 plus acre feet in the bank most of that due to the efforts to recycle every drop that hits a drain in the basin.
This is why Vegas will never be out of water they have legal rights to any flows from the state of Nevada, all their effluent flows and have a intake below the level where Hoover dam can let water out by 35 feet, 860 feet vs 895 dead pool. That 35 feet is over 3 million acre feet so Nevada has a bank no other state can touch without breaching Hoover dam.
Only Israel recycles more of its water by percentage it’s 95% for Israel from drain to reuse and most of the original water was from desalination to begin with. Israel is moving to direct reuse as well from indirect via injection and agricultural uses via drip irrigation.
Well water is safe I have no reason to worry and it’s filtered
"A" photon? You know there is a spectrum of photons ranging from cosmic background radiation to very hard gamma radiation? The photons having enough energy to break up a water molecule are not very common in the lower atmosphere, so most water molecules never meet one of those and are thus not broken apart in the water cycle.
Stupid headline. The beer is not brewed using raw sewage. It is brewed with water that has been recycled (or whatever you want to call it) from raw sewage.
Water.
Moltke wrote: “”A” photon? You know there is a spectrum of photons ranging from cosmic background radiation to very hard gamma radiation? The photons having enough energy to break up a water molecule are not very common in the lower atmosphere, so most water molecules never meet one of those and are thus not broken apart in the water cycle.”
Considering the scarcity of free hydrogen in the atmosphere, wouldn’t the hydrogen and oxygen atoms recombine rather quickly?
I would think it more likely that free oxygen atoms would combine to form O2.
But I do not know what the spatial proximity of H2 and O - if the split even happens that way all the time - would be to favor one over the other. I’m sure that could be looked up.
The point is that there is not enough hard gamma radiation in the lower atmosphere to split water molecules to make that an issue of significance. = Water in the atmosphere tends to remain water.
"In a series of painstakingly precise experiments, a team of researchers at MIT has demonstrated that heat isn’t alone in causing water to evaporate. Light, striking the water’s surface where air and water meet, can break water molecules away and float them into the air, causing evaporation in the absence of any source of heat."
https://news.mit.edu/2024/how-light-can-vaporize-water-without-heat-0423
Depends on where that well is...I wouldn’t drink out of a well in the Midland basin within a mile radius of a frac pond, active frac job or salt water disposal well. Certainly not a shallow surface water well and also would have the water ppm level tested from the deeper Ogallala strat either. I give this advice as a board professional licenced PG who has drilled hundreds of SWD and brine production wells in that basin. There is benzene and volatile organics in nearly every sample I have ever seen inside a mile of one of those activities. No casing job is 100% tight over the course of years of corrosive water injection or production. Every frac pond has a plume off it EVERY SINGLE ONE they are licenced for the emissions by the ppm at a certain distance. Then remember biologically there is no safe level for type one carcinogens like benzene regardless what the state railroad commission licences the medical data is clear on it.
That may be so, but note that it says “water molecules” - the H2O molecule itself remains intact; it is not split into H2 and O. It is just another evaporation process.
In order for the hydrogen bond to break, one hydrogen atom has to break away, to be replaced by another that's not connected to the first water molecule.
Once the first hydrogen atom has broken away, it's no longer the same water molecule.
My well is in sand stone tests show no traces of anything harmful the best water you’ve ever tasted.
We have the shallower woodbine sandstone and the deeper Glen Rose strata both hold fresh water. The Glen Rose it’s deep enough that the water has not seen the atmosphere in at least 1000 years so any fallout would not reach that far down dip for a century I’ll be dust by that time so not worried about fall out contaminating my back up water supply. We have north Texas COG water in the pipes running at the street sides and finally sewerage system pipes too. No more septic nastiness.
No septic nastiness issues in my area.
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