Trump expected to 'soon' appoint a Ukrainian peace envoy after promises of negotiating end to war with Russia

Ukraine is already a puppet of NATO even if it hasn't joined.

There is no chance the Russians are or were going to tolerate an illegal coup that installed a government hostile to Moscow and NATO countries funding, training and arming a 600,000 man army.

That, on Russia's border, was absolutely a national security threat.

That Crimea and parts of Donetsk and Luhansk did not participate was not of their choice; it was imposed upon them by the Russian military.

That is absolutely lie.

Those in those oblasts absolutely declared their independence and sought assistance from Russia.

Who the hell do you think you're fooling? The vast majority in all three oblasts voted for Yanukovych.

Your lies aren't believable to anyone that knows anything about the region.

I know that you desperately want what you are saying to be true, but just repeating it does not make it so. The facts are against you. Did the referenda occur before or after militants from the ethnic Russian minority seized power? After. The referenda were held under Russian military occupation. There was no public debate, no allowance for public opposition, and were conducted by the occupying power. They are thus useless. It is dishonest to keep defending and treating them as if they were legitimate.

You keep going about a supposed coup in Kyiv, yet you support actual military coups in Crimea and Donbas. And the people of those regions are supposed to have protected their democratic rights by placing themselves under the rule of Putin, who has not conducted a legitimate election since he came to power. How absurd.

As for pointing out that these regions supported Yanukovych, it must be remembered that he had originally backed the EU agreement. He only came out against it after pressure from Putin. (I guess he is allowed to interfere with Ukrainian politics because, well, he is Russian.) It was this betrayal, not CIA agitation, that lead to the protests. He was elected president, not dictator. Support for Yanukovych in the election does not equal a desire for independence or union with Russia. If the Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk truly wanted independence, it should have come after a open and public campaign, not from the barrel of a gun held by militants from the minority ethnic population. And what about Kherson and Zapporizhzhia? Are you really going to support the legitimacy of their referenda?

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