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Boeing Starliner capsule lands back on Earth, without astronauts, to end troubled test flight (video)
Space ^ | Sept. 7, 2024 | Mike Wall

Posted on 09/07/2024 4:39:03 AM PDT by george76

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To: baclava

It’s actually NASA with egg on their face, much less Boeing.


41 posted on 09/07/2024 7:40:42 AM PDT by 38special (The government is ruining our country!)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty
I remember reading about Sputnik in my Weekly Reader in 2nd grade.
42 posted on 09/07/2024 7:43:34 AM PDT by mware
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To: george76

So if the capsule made it back ok, does that mean the astronauts could have come back, with it, after all?


43 posted on 09/07/2024 7:43:45 AM PDT by ducttape45 (Jeremiah 17:9, "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?")
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To: ducttape45

Yes. NASA made the safe decision but the wrong decision.


44 posted on 09/07/2024 7:48:08 AM PDT by 38special (The government is ruining our country!)
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To: telescope115

We could already be drilling the ice moons and hollowing out asteroids for mining and as spacecraft if we eliminated weak, puny, needy meatbag humans.


We could have had return manned flights form Alpha Centuri or other star by now, if the original Project Orion had not been cancelled in a fit of political weakness in 1964.


45 posted on 09/07/2024 7:59:28 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: george76
"Great landing of Calyspo!" NASA astronaut Suni Williams said on the agency's webcast. "I don't think that could have gone better."

Yeah, you shoulda been there!

46 posted on 09/07/2024 8:04:17 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: BradyLS

“Great landing of Calyspo!” NASA astronaut Suni Williams said on the agency’s webcast. “I don’t think that could have gone better.”


Might have been nice if there were actually some humans on it.


47 posted on 09/07/2024 8:05:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: mewzilla

I agree with all your points. Well said.


48 posted on 09/07/2024 8:08:06 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: george76
Boeing bashing has been blood sport inspired by the media.

The return flight was absolutely flawless, everything happened on que and all of the systems worked as advertised, even the thrusters. Where is the recognition of that?? It's time to look at some aspects of this other than the hardware.

We have been driven by a media induced hysteria and contemporary cultural norms, to expect failure, not just in Starliner but in many aspects of our lives. Optimism is gone.. The media was filling front pages with this pessimism because there are no hurricanes or shark attacks to dwell on so far this year. Hell, they've even run out of tornadoes.

It is obvious that NASA was afraid to make a decision that wasn't 100% guaranteed. They were more afraid of the political fallout than take the chance for success. John Glen knew his ride on the Atlas was about a 75% shot at success. He had seen too many blow up to delude himself otherwise. Still, he went.

Neil Armstrong landed the LEM on the moon even though his computer gave out on him. Standing NASA instructions were to abort the mission if this occurred. He made an informed decision based on his risk analysis.

I admire the people who know the risks of spaceflight and despite those risks, go anyway. That is the America I grew up in and hope to see again before I die.

49 posted on 09/07/2024 8:30:06 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: PghBaldy

It should be named “Barnacle” since it hung onto the ISS for so long.


50 posted on 09/07/2024 8:30:17 AM PDT by freebird5850 (The only way I can treat this fever....More cowbell!)
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To: PGR88

BRAVO!! Well said.


51 posted on 09/07/2024 8:36:14 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

I have been saying for a while is that China is going to own the Moon.

Why?

Because they don’t care how many people die in Moon missions.

They don’t care how many of them fail.

American bureaucrats and politicians could never take the heat that piles of dead astronaut bodies would generate.

Space is not safe. It is dangerous.


52 posted on 09/07/2024 8:40:18 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: pfflier
We have been driven by a media induced hysteria and contemporary cultural norms, to expect failure,

Indeed, and that applies to every aspect of our society.

The utter mediocrities in media and politics can't stand to see other people succeed at all, much less succeed spectacularly. Therefore, they tear people down at every opportunity.

53 posted on 09/07/2024 8:48:11 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Pollard

Busk Rogers impressed.


54 posted on 09/07/2024 8:50:30 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: cgbg
Space is not safe. It is dangerous.

More people die in their bathtubs than die in space, by a long shot.

55 posted on 09/07/2024 8:50:59 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: pfflier

“more people die in their bathtubs”

Tell that to NASA. I am sure your logic will impress them.

Lol.


56 posted on 09/07/2024 8:52:44 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: pfflier

Perhaps you could apply as a Public Relations spokesman for the NASA of the future:

“We just had micrometeorites penetrate the spacesuits and kill three of our astronauts driving in their dune buggies on the moon today. Just remember—this was no big deal—more people died today in their bathtubs than died on this Moon mission.”


57 posted on 09/07/2024 8:57:49 AM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: Pollard
I'm 76, never thought I would ever see that type of landing. As a child I saw cartoon magazines and later TV showing that kind of landing, but NASA never attempted that.

The reason many not be because they did not want to attempt it. I remember stuff coming out of Kelly Johnson's Skunk Works (much like what Musk has done), in particular the 1960’s project which brought out the SR-71 Blackbird. I've read that it was almost impossible to fly without a computer.

I read about Barry Goldwater having flown it. He was the only person that had not gone through the normal paths (he was a AF Reserve pilot) Even today the speed that flew at is almost unimaginable.

Musk has the instincts. Kelly Johnson had them. Yes, there were very good engineers on board, but the instinct from broad understanding is necessary to run such stuff.

58 posted on 09/07/2024 8:59:25 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Texas is not about where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty; mewzilla; All
We moved from Old Bridge, NJ to Houston, TX in July 1969. Celebrated My 8th Birthday while watching Neil and Buzz landing on the Moon. And hearing the words from Neil as He stepped off of the LM ladder was pretty damned awesome !!! I thought it was the best Birthday Present ever.

In the early 90's I was installing car alarm systems and there was one customer that wanted the $40.00 alarm system installed on His 60's Mustang and He was not happy with it's limitations and I told Him that We had everything that could be added to that system installed. He wanted to talk to the Company that designed the alarm system so I got them on the phone and was listening to the conversation. About 10 minutes into the conversation he revealed that He was a Retired NASA Systems Engineer. The next thing He mentioned was that He was the Lead Systems Engineer for the Saturn V Rocket REDUNDANCY SAFETY SYSTEMS !!!

After He was finished with the call. I asked Him why didn't He just design and build His own Alarm System for the Mustang ?!

His answer was "I'm retired now."

59 posted on 09/08/2024 5:29:14 PM PDT by mabarker1 ( (Congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!! A fraud, a hypocrite, a liar. I'm a member of Congress!!!)
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