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Zelensky's final act of desperation (MY NOTES on 47 minute RUMBLE Video)
rumble.com ^ | 8/31/2024 | The Duran, Alexander Mercouris, Alexander Christaforou

Posted on 09/02/2024 3:11:55 PM PDT by ransomnote

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To: MinorityRepublican
WHenever I post detailed reasons I do not support the proxy war in Ukraine, it is soundly ignored by supporters of the war. It's to the point that I don't even bother posting it, but that's a mistake on my part. Below, I re-posted a prior answer I've provided many times on Ukraine threads.

Many FReepers seem unaware that our CIA helped overthrow Ukrainian leadership in preparation for NATO to weaponize the Ukraine and intentionally provoke Putin's national security concerns.

2 days after the CIA's overthrow of the Ukraine began, Putin annexed part of the Crimea. Ukraine's apologists always act there's no provocation, no reason at all, which provoked Russia to respond. If China overthrew Mexico and installed weapons and built an army there, the US would 'object', just as Russia objects to NATO's intentions to force regime change in Russia.

In 2010, the Ukraine's "parliament passed a law banning Ukraine from joining any military bloc, effectively banning it from entering NATO though maintaining opportunities for cooperation. According to a poll conducted by Pew Research Center the fall before, just over half of Ukrainians disapproved of NATO and the idea Ukraine might try to join, while just 28% approved." source

ransomnote: Given that the Ukraine moved to prevent NATO membership, the US CIA overthrew the Ukrainian government  (start of that 'revolution' was February 18, 2014). With (CIA) help, NATO was now in control of the Ukraine, Russia responded by annexing part of Crimea Feb 20, 2014 – Mar 21, 2014.

Two monthls later in May, two more reagions of the Crimea voted for independence to escape NATO's overthrow of the Ukraine, at which point NATO/CIA controlled Western Ukraine began shelling Eastern Ukraine. Nobody likes to talk about Eastern Ukraine shelling western Ukraine; they prefer to repeatedly claim Russia acted without reason and will attack other nations at will once it wins the war in the Ukraine. Those people simply have no objection to the government of the Ukraine shelling its own citizens.

Trump would force negotiations and end the war - that will be his legacy.


21 posted on 09/02/2024 4:09:58 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Thank you for your post. I can see Russia's point of view. I do not agree with it. But we have to recognize that.

Also, our CIA is not what it used to be. So the Maidan Uprising was going to happen with or without CIA's involvement.

22 posted on 09/02/2024 4:13:42 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: ransomnote

thanks for transcript...well done
and very imformative


23 posted on 09/02/2024 4:15:52 PM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: ransomnote
Thanks Ransom, looks like the Biden-NeoCon manipulation of Zelensky, and Zelensky's occasional turning of the tables on Biden and the NeoCons, resulting in Biden's replacement by a Foreign Marxist Whore Apparatchik, has cost the Deep Swamp and MSM so dearly in credibility that Foreign Nations have taken the pressure off Russia to show restraint in Ukraine, and they now recognize US Proxy War on Russia.

It looks like Ukraine will pay the largest part of the price.

24 posted on 09/02/2024 4:26:23 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: ransomnote
I agree that it is time to unleash long range missiles and target the interior of Russia with weapons of mass destruction to bring a quick end of the war in Ukraine.

Thinking we should round up Victoria Nueland, Joe Biden, George Soros, Larry Fink, Claus Schwab, Barak and Michelle Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Tony Blinken, Boris Johnson, Jake Sullivan, Mitch McConnell , Lindsey Graham, Mark Warners, Mitt Romney, Gen Mark Milley, Gen Lloyd Austin, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Emmanuel Macron, Justin Trudeau and the rest of crew of other WMDs that have been destroying the Ukraine and the rest of the world's economy since 2022.

We should then round up a bunch of old ballistic missiles that have exceeded their shelf lives and tie these two legged WMDs that have caused so much death and devastation to the nose cones of the missiles with blue and yellow striped Ukrainian flags.

We should then shoot them off at the Ukraine border in a generally eastward direction.

Do this and the war in Ukraine would end overnight. It would be the best money we ever spent.

25 posted on 09/02/2024 4:35:23 PM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: MinorityRepublican

Saving lives will only happen when Russia goes home. Are any of the Russian bots posting here also posting on Russian boards trying to get the Russians to go home and stop killing their soldiers at 1,000 a day??


26 posted on 09/02/2024 4:41:27 PM PDT by POGO163
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To: MinorityRepublican
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Zelensky's final act of desperation (MY NOTES on 47 minute RUMBLE Video) , MinorityRepublican wrote:
Thank you for your post. I can see Russia's point of view. I do not agree with it. But we have to recognize that.

Also, our CIA is not what it used to be. So the Maidan Uprising was going to happen with or without CIA's involvement.

You're welcome.

Also, our CIA is not what it used to be. So the Maidan Uprising was going to happen with or without CIA's involvement.

False. The Ukraine is a deep state crime hub. Election theft,organharvesting, a source of money laundering that keeps the DNC alive and in office.

I spent countless hours documenting the transcript of the resutls of crimes which Ukrainian investigators brought to the attention of the West. The transcripts are screen captures of text in English as the investigators gave their statements in their own language. The investigators implicate Biden and other US officials, and his son of course, in extensive crime committed in the Ukraine. Schumer, Pelosi, Schiff, Romney, Biden's son and brother, and others - enrich themselves through money laundering and influence peddling in the Ukraine. Recall Hunter Biden 'worked' for energy company there, as did others. This unearned income is graft, payola, the purchase of political influence, and Biden get's his 10%. This is just unacceptable to me.

The transcripts are in four parts near the end of this thread post:

 


27 posted on 09/02/2024 4:41:31 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: rdcbn1
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Zelensky's final act of desperation (MY NOTES on 47 minute RUMBLE Video) , rdcbn1 wrote:
I agree that it is time to unleash long range missiles and target the interior of Russia with weapons of mass destruction to bring a quick end of the war in Ukraine.

Thinking we should round up Victoria Nueland, Joe Biden, George Soros, Larry Fink, Claus Schwab, Barak and Michelle Obama, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Tony Blinken, Boris Johnson, Jake Sullivan, Mitch McConnell , Lindsey Graham, Mark Warners, Mitt Romney, Gen Mark Milley, Gen Lloyd Austin, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Emmanuel Macron, Justin Trudeau and the rest of crew of other WMDs that have been destroying the Ukraine and the rest of the world's economy since 2022.

We should then round up a bunch of old ballistic missiles that have exceeded their shelf lives and tie these two legged WMDs that have caused so much death and devastation to the nose cones of the missiles with blue and yellow striped Ukrainian flags.

We should then shoot them off at the Ukraine border in a generally eastward direction.

Do this and the war in Ukraine would end overnight. It would be the best money we ever spent.

 The video makers, Christoforou and Mercouris, make the point that such missiles will only make matters worse for the Ukraine, and for the world.

I agree with their view - missiles would do nothing. I believe NATO wants to start a war. When Britain talked about possibly allowing their missiles to be use, Russia's ambassador met with them and explained that Russia would then be justified in retaliating on British assets anywhere in the world. Ukraine has a few missiles, Russia has many. Long range missles are just NATO begging for war.


28 posted on 09/02/2024 4:51:03 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

For those who don’t already know, Mercouris is a well known Russian propaganda asset. What he has to say is rarely correct, but a good look into what the Russian MOD wants you to think is true.


29 posted on 09/02/2024 5:13:42 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ransomnote
No it doesn't.

What about that burning oil refinery in suburban Moscow?

30 posted on 09/02/2024 5:16:20 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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Maybe he roots for Russia because Biden is against Russia, and SOME OF US here don’t want to see Biden succeed.

It is not just Biden. It is the establishment. Lindsey Graham etc.


31 posted on 09/02/2024 5:16:22 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: ransomnote

I am surprised you aren’t concerned about the Russian conscripts getting blown to pieces on a daily basis.


32 posted on 09/02/2024 5:17:30 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ransomnote

I presume you don’t wear a seatbelt in your car because all of the people you listed also support wearing seatbelts.


33 posted on 09/02/2024 5:18:17 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ransomnote

Excellent and thank you. I agree with your personal assessment. I think you are right on the money.


34 posted on 09/02/2024 5:18:23 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: freeandfreezing

We’re not giving Russia 200+ billion dollars in US tax funds thus far, and Russia isn’t trying to start WWIII.


35 posted on 09/02/2024 5:19:11 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: alternatives?
Maybe he roots for Russia because Biden is against Russia, and SOME OF US here don’t want to see Biden succeed.

That's the Jane Fonda method of protesting. She introduced that idea to American politics during the Vietnam war.

36 posted on 09/02/2024 5:20:04 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Zelensky's final act of desperation (MY NOTES on 47 minute RUMBLE Video) , freeandfreezing wrote:
No it doesn't.

What about that burning oil refinery in suburban Moscow?

What about it? It doesn't change the course of the war. It's PR to 'prove' fighting is occuring. It likely negatively impacts India and the EU as they buy fuel from Russia.


37 posted on 09/02/2024 5:22:19 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote
Russia isn’t trying to start WWIII

Nobody is trying to start WWIII, except perhaps Russian and Iran. If those two countries weren't busy invading other countries, or in the case of Iran, supporting proxy groups doing the invading and attacking, the world would be much more peaceful.

38 posted on 09/02/2024 5:22:44 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ransomnote
It doesn't change the course of the war.

Have you looked at the situation with the Russian oil industry?

39 posted on 09/02/2024 5:23:46 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing; ransomnote
Have you looked at the situation with the Russian oil industry?

He's too busy drooling like some slack jaw idiot over Russia's Smooth Brain Operation.

40 posted on 09/02/2024 5:38:35 PM PDT by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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