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Tim Walz used incorrect ‘backdoor process’ to retire from National Guard: His superior officer [Command Sergeant Major Doug Julin, Ret.]
The Washington Examiner ^ | August 10, 2024 | Ross O'Keefe

Posted on 08/10/2024 6:17:31 PM PDT by kiryandil

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"Backdoor Timmy" Walz bailed on his guys, no matter how much the Gaslight Media and people like ex-Marine James Carville lie about it.
1 posted on 08/10/2024 6:17:31 PM PDT by kiryandil
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; fso301; Responsibility2nd; TigersEye; Reno89519; cgbg; drypowder; Kudsman; ...

“Blue Falcon” ping to the other “Backdoor Timmy” Walz thread.


2 posted on 08/10/2024 6:23:39 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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Back-door Tampon Timmy.


3 posted on 08/10/2024 6:29:59 PM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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This is not going away anytime soon


4 posted on 08/10/2024 6:30:06 PM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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I have a brother-in-law who was also a member of the MN National Guard. He made no bones about it, he was in for the benefits and pension. He also made it to sergeant but I don’t know what level.
He was in a unit he considered safe; skill set unlikely to deploy. He bragged about his 2 weeks a year tromping in the woods of Fort Ripley in the day and playing cards at night. He got his son into the same unit.
Well, they got notice that they were going to Kosovo. He immediately retired (just shy of 20 years I think). His son deployed and came home a PTSD wreck.
I doubt this is peculiar to the MN Nat.Guard, but it’s a familiar story to me.


5 posted on 08/10/2024 6:31:46 PM PDT by cephalopod
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I’m glad this is on CNN


6 posted on 08/10/2024 6:32:07 PM PDT by 11th_VA (All Borders Matter)
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Timmy to Kamala: “Now they are calling me Backdoor ...”

Kamala to Timmy: “It’s taken. That’s my nickname.”


7 posted on 08/10/2024 6:34:06 PM PDT by plain talk
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8 posted on 08/10/2024 6:36:28 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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To: 11th_VA

Off camera CNN staff is probably making “backdoor” jokes.

They have probably figured out the situation with Walz by now.


9 posted on 08/10/2024 6:38:19 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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From the article:

"...Now in June 2005, Julin walked into a meeting at the camp again, and was told Walz had “quit.” “The issue that had came out of this was, first of all, how did Tim Walz quit without discussing with me because I was his next level of leadership.”

“The other issue that came out of this was that the individual that approved this was two levels higher than myself in the enlisted corps and should have had Tim Walz come back to me and discuss why he was going forward or not going forward now after he already told me he was going forward,” he said.

Julin said because of Walz’s rank, he should’ve known protocol for how he was supposed to go about exiting the military. “Tim Walz knew the process and procedures, he went around me and above and beyond me … basically went in there to get somebody to back him … it was just a backdoor process...”

Despicable. Just despicable. This shows this "lower-than-whale-sh*t" guy Walz in an even worse light, and I didn't think that was going to be possible.

He jumped the chain of command for something like that. Jumping the chain of command for a moral issue is ONE thing. If someone is encountering a moral issue with the person directly above them, they owe it to them to to speak face-to-face with them, IMO. I understand there are times that might not be possible. The point is, I can find situations where jumping the chain might be the only way.

THIS damn well sure WAS NOT ONE OF THOSE situations. This was so disrespectful and calculated that it would even overshadow his apparent cowardice.

10 posted on 08/10/2024 6:41:10 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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cephalopod wrote:I have a brother-in-law who was also a member of the MN National Guard. He made no bones about it, he was in for the benefits and pension.
He also made it to sergeant but I don’t know what level.

I did some calcs the other day when I saw the Gaslight Media touting Timmy A-Walz's "common man" lack of stock and real estate investments.

article trying to show a meager walz living off a teachers pension , no assets, no investments, no business ventures, he’s just a regular guy like me and you.

I did a guesstimate of the annual retirement income of Tampax Timmy A-Walz and his wife:

  $100,000 US House pension
  $ 60,000 Social Security
  $ 40,000 annual compounded interest [403(b) - 2 accounts]
  $ 40,000 gubernatorial pension
  $ 30,000 National Guard retirement pay
  ========
  $270,000 total annually
  

Not bad scratch, if you can get it. $135 an hour, retired.

We won't even talk about their gold-plated Cadillac health care packages.

Plus, they sold their house and are living in a rental house [on the Minnesota taxpayer dime] while the Minnesota governor's mansion is being renovated.

The biggest tax ticks ever spotted in the wild...

11 posted on 08/10/2024 6:42:51 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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This is just awful. Just awful. All of it.


12 posted on 08/10/2024 6:45:08 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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Walz has a perpetual smirk and not a little bit of effeminacy embedded in his face. I don’t see how anyone could vote for him. That man is not right.


13 posted on 08/10/2024 6:56:58 PM PDT by odawg
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so the members of the NG can quit whenever they
feel like it?

how does that work?


14 posted on 08/10/2024 6:58:08 PM PDT by RockyTx
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This was also in that article:

"...Other soldiers who served with Walz say the negative backlash against him is “just not right.”

“I don’t agree with a lot of his politics, but Tim Walz is a good man, and he was a good soldier,” Master Sgt. Thomas Eustice told Fox 9. “And for people to vilify him, it’s just not right...”

I don't know who this guy is, Master Sgt. Thomas Eustice, so I don't wish to attack him.

But I have to ask: How would HE feel about a subordinate who didn't come to him with his intentions to retire, but instead jumped up to the two people in the chain of command above him?

I really want to know.

I grew up in a Navy family for a thirty year veteran, and spent four years in myself, but I got out nearly 45 years ago, so I could be all wet behind the ears. Maybe this is not such a big deal as I am making it out to be. Maybe times have changed. If so, I would like someone to set me straight if I am off-base here, but:

The family I grew up in, in the Navy I grew up in, and the Navy that I served in, it was steadfast and universally accepted that jumping the chain of command is a dishonorable practice, and without proper justification, is the best and most sure way to get in trouble.

Am I wrong here? I know there are many on this forum who served in the military. Am I wrong? If I am, tell me so. I won't be angry or hurt.

I fully recognize that the military of 45 years ago is not the military of today, or even 2005, but that is something I did not think could or would change.

15 posted on 08/10/2024 7:01:13 PM PDT by rlmorel (J.D. Vance and The Legend of The MaMaw of The 19 Loaded Guns!)
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It was reported elsewhere that he didn’t even sign the form that persons leaving the Guard are obliged to sign. Instead of the usual signature someone wrote “Soldier unavailable for signature.”


16 posted on 08/10/2024 7:03:40 PM PDT by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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I don’t know if you have seen this video yet.

Remember—body language never lies:

https://www.banned.video/watch?id=66b4156ab01c3fb66797e4c5

This is about Walz on stage and how he reacts to his wife vs how he reacts to Kamala’s husband.


17 posted on 08/10/2024 7:05:33 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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so the members of the NG can quit whenever they feel like it?

how does that work?

You'll never be able to explain to an ordinary Democrat what's wrong with that picture.

And liars like ex-Marine James Carville, Aleksandr Vindman and Adam Kinsinger will poo-poo your argument.

18 posted on 08/10/2024 7:06:18 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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Agreed—only older Democrat veterans or current members of the National Guard will “get it”—don’t know how many there are out there.


19 posted on 08/10/2024 7:07:49 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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We're lucky that Doug Emhoff and "Backdoor Timmy" Walz didn't go full Beast With Two Backs right on the stage.

Emhoff had to shake off the leg thrill.

20 posted on 08/10/2024 7:10:48 PM PDT by kiryandil (FR Democrat Party operatives! Rally in defense of your Colombian cartel stooge Merchan!)
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