Posted on 03/25/2024 12:10:45 AM PDT by nickcarraway
This is your original post: US didn’t have anything to do with opium in the Qing Dynasty almost 200 years ago. Are you on drugs?
So your original post mentioned NOTHING about the Opium Wars. My post said nothing about the Opium Wars. So, your response is non sequitur. Neither of us even mentioned it.
I would also say your post is wrong to say the U.S. had nothing to do with the war. In the First Opium war, it was not a belligerent, but it was definitely an unindicted coconspirator.
There were some minor skirmishes that lead up to the 1843 landing of sailors and marines from the U.S.S. St. Louis after earlier hostilities.
In 1844, the U.S. and China signed the Treaty of Wanghia, and why did the U.S. get such a good deal, if there was no military threat. The U.S. got everything the British got in their treaty, plus even more.
During the Second Opium War, the U.S. had 4 major incursions in China, including the first one where U.S. and British military together landed near Shanghai and carried out the operation between April 4th and June 17th, 1854. That kind of sounds like they were an undeclared belligerent.
They also had one in 1866.
Starting in 1894, the U.S. started again being actively militarily involved, into the 1900s, with American troops becoming involved in the Boxer Rebellion, Xinhai Revolution, and much more.
I can look up and list them all out, if you want.
I am not saying I agree, or it's justified, but if you know anything about China, they absolutely view it this way.
Of course, the U.S. is their rival know, but they are absolutely still angry about that, even though none of them were alive back then.
“ I am not saying I agree, or it’s justified, but if you know anything about China, they absolutely view it this way.”
Psychotics view things in psychotic ways and leftists use specious historical wrongs to gain advantage - reparations, anyone?
How do you not know that’s what the one party dictatorship is doing?
It’s Chicom propaganda and narrative.
You’re funny, too. Pretending you know anything about China.
I know there are plenty of sane people in China or from China, but the former have no power and don’t want to end up in prison. It’s a full on police state with near total control of media, education and communication. The latter got out.
So, you think China is this warm fuzzy benevolent country? You couldn’t be more wrong.
But knowing history, and understanding the history helps to deal with it. They think differently than us, despite what you think.
I'm against marijuana as well...insidious....
How the heck do you know?
You’re talking out your you know what.
Seriously, answer. How do you know?
“ So, you think China is this warm fuzzy benevolent country? You couldn’t be more wrong.”
It’s hard to imagine how you can misconstrue my comments more.
How do I know what?
** How do I know what?**
“ They think differently than us”
Meaning Chinese people, 老百姓, as opposed to Chicoms. How do you know what Chinese people think.
I’d argue even many Chicoms don’t believe it’s payback but are happy to justify it that way.
The bottom line is they would do it with or without any historical justification. They really don’t care about history any more than a phony faith healer cares about the gospel.
Chicoms present illusion and fakery. They know how to play the 白左 and do it well. Our left learned from them to do it here.
Do no accept any narrative from the left, including Chicoms who are the grandfather of our new left, which is where our current despotic regime in DC came from.
People voluntarily choose to ingest toxic drugs into their bodies. It’s no one else’s fault.
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