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America Before Pizza
The Atlantic ^ | DECEMBER 21, 2023

Posted on 12/21/2023 6:00:24 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 12/21/2023 6:00:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
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where I grew up in NYS “Pizza” was called “hot pie”....we had many Italians living in our area....


2 posted on 12/21/2023 6:01:54 PM PST by cherry
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I never even heard of pizza until the 1950s .

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3 posted on 12/21/2023 6:03:30 PM PST by Mears
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I have my mother’s Betty Crocker cookbook from 1952, and it talks about the new Italian food, pizza pie


4 posted on 12/21/2023 6:07:29 PM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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The 1953 movie The Band Wagon mentions pizza, and 1949's On he Town shows a pizzeria. I know I've heard a 1940s old radio show that mentions tacos, but I think pizza as well. Dean Martin had a hit song in 1953 That's Amore mentions pizza. In the early 50s food critics were worried that pizza would supplant the hot dog as the country's favorite food, so their must have been some penetration before that.
5 posted on 12/21/2023 6:14:50 PM PST by nickcarraway
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The 1953 movie The Band Wagon mentions pizza, and 1949's On he Town shows a pizzeria. I know I've heard a 1940s old radio show that mentions tacos, but I think pizza as well. Dean Martin had a hit song in 1953 That's Amore mentions pizza. In the early 50s food critics were worried that pizza would supplant the hot dog as the country's favorite food, so their must have been some penetration before that.
6 posted on 12/21/2023 6:14:51 PM PST by nickcarraway
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The 1953 movie The Band Wagon mentions pizza, and 1949's On he Town shows a pizzeria. I know I've heard a 1940s old radio show that mentions tacos, but I think pizza as well. Dean Martin had a hit song in 1953 That's Amore mentions pizza. In the early 50s food critics were worried that pizza would supplant the hot dog as the country's favorite food, so their must have been some penetration before that.
7 posted on 12/21/2023 6:14:55 PM PST by nickcarraway
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The 1953 movie The Band Wagon mentions pizza, and 1949's On he Town shows a pizzeria. I know I've heard a 1940s old radio show that mentions tacos, but I think pizza as well. Dean Martin had a hit song in 1953 That's Amore mentions pizza. In the early 50s food critics were worried that pizza would supplant the hot dog as the country's favorite food, so their must have been some penetration before that.
8 posted on 12/21/2023 6:14:56 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Dean Martin - That’s Amore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnFlx2Lnr9Q


9 posted on 12/21/2023 6:20:21 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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A quadruple. I have not seen one. ;)


10 posted on 12/21/2023 6:21:37 PM PST by AloneInMass (You'd think there would be more similarity between "chain letter" and "chain mail".)
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A much more unhappy place. Same with hamburgers.


11 posted on 12/21/2023 6:26:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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There was a glitch in the system.


12 posted on 12/21/2023 6:26:20 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I’m originally from New Haven where apizza has been around for 100 years.

I miss Sally’s, Pepe’s and Modern a lot.

Great pizza if you ever get a chance to go.


13 posted on 12/21/2023 6:29:30 PM PST by Fuzz (. )
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Even Wikipedia acknowledges ‘pizza’ as a crust with tomatoes (a New World item), etc, goes back to 18th - 19th century or maybe earlier. First American pizzeria to early 20th century.


14 posted on 12/21/2023 6:31:59 PM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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And then came the ultimate expression of goodness;

Deep dish pizza.


15 posted on 12/21/2023 6:32:01 PM PST by glorgau
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There is a plural, pizze, but no one ever uses it

Restaurants that list the pies on their menus as "pizze" are usually owned and operated by Italians, and they serve the best pizza.

16 posted on 12/21/2023 6:33:55 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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Pizza was taken to the United States by Italian immigrants in the late nineteenth century and first appeared in areas where they concentrated. The country’s first pizzeria, Lombardi’s, opened in New York City in 1905. Following World War II, veterans returning from the Italian Campaign, who were introduced to Italy’s native cuisine, proved a ready market for pizza in particular.

Thirteen percent of the United States population consumes pizza on any given day.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza


17 posted on 12/21/2023 6:33:57 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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What if the Earl of Sandwich had never invented the sandwich?


18 posted on 12/21/2023 6:35:19 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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Pizza Pie--Norman Fox & the Rob Roys (1959)
19 posted on 12/21/2023 6:35:56 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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“Pompeii archaeologists discover ‘pizza’ painting”

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66031341

no tomatoes, of course


20 posted on 12/21/2023 6:36:37 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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