Posted on 10/06/2023 6:06:43 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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Public Television Company of Armenia CJSCThe article is about a year old, and for an Armenian company in this time of crisis in Armenia, no wonder there is some snafu. The article, reproduced here for you:
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29 Aug, 2022 - CJSCInteresting perspective, passed through First Channel News (Armenia) from Corriere della Sera.Mayor of Odessa called for negotiations with Russia
The mayor of Odessa, Gennady Trukhanov, said that it is necessary to negotiate with Russia and seek compromises. An interview with him was published on August 29 by an Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera.
He noted the importance of political negotiations, as “the lives of millions of people are at stake.”
“Of course, I would like to return our borders of 1991, but this must be done step by step, compromises must be found, and wall-to-wall logic should be avoided,” the Odessa mayor emphasized.
The actions of the Ukrainian leader Volodymyr Zelensky since the beginning of Russia's special military operation to protect Donbass, he called “generally correct.” However, Trukhanov criticized the fact that the country's president did not grant more autonomy to the regions and municipalities.
“If he had listened to the recommendations, everything would have worked better,” he shared his opinion.
Speaking about the possibility of demolishing the monument to Empress Catherine II in Odessa, the mayor of the city recalled that he was against it. He stressed that it was she who founded the city, and the demolition of the monument is meaningless.
It is a tangled rale spanning many years, and worth sampling as exemplary of corruption in Ukraine. So....
Kind of a funny larger story. Seemingly pro-Putin before 2022, he turned away when elected mayor of Odessa. And then is caught up in corruption scandals in Ukraine.One could get the impression that scandals involve lots of money, and linger over many, many years, even until today. Ah, politics."A Ukrainian crime gang used offshore firms in British tax havens to secretly invest millions of pounds in the UK, a BBC Panorama investigation has found. The gangsters, and in some cases family members, bought luxurious property in prime London locations, including a £12.5m flat. The daughter of a man dubbed the 'Don of Odessa' is the registered owner of three homes in one expensive block." 23 April 2018
Paradise Papers: Ukraine crime gang hid proceeds in luxury London flats
"Trukhanov defended his pivot in a Tuesday interview with the English-language Independent. He explained that when he became mayor of Odesa, Ukraine's third-largest city, he 'took an oath of allegiance' to the Ukrainian people, which he said is important to him." 17 May 2022
Pro-Russia Mayor of Ukraine's 'Crime Capital' Turns His Back on Putin
"Trukhanov is a controversial politician who was elected to the top office in Odesa, a center for Ukrainian shipbuilding and trade, in 2014. In the early stages of his career, he was aligned with pro-Moscow political parties, but in recent years he positioned himself as an advocate of Odesa's economic growth. His critics have accused him of running a corrupt city hall. The NABU has investigated a number of alleged embezzlement cases in Odesa municipality, with Trukhanov's involvement." 4 May 2023
Mayor of Odesa Gennadiy Trukhanov Arrested in Connection with Embezzlement Charges
"The central government hopes to use the provisions of martial law to root out corruption at the local level while getting rid of inconvenient regional politicians at the same time. It's true that Ukraine's mayors are often corrupt, but by targeting individuals, the government is increasingly undermining the very idea of local self-government." 25 May 2023
Ukraine's Other Battle: Zelensky vs. the Mayors
Most recently....
"The Italian Ambassador to Ukraine, Pier Francesco Zazo, and the Special Envoy for the Reconstruction of Ukraine, Davide La Cecilia, are today on a mission to Odessa together with the President of the Triennale, architect Stefano Boeri, the President of MAXXI, Alessandro Giuli, the Mayor of Odessa, Gennadiy Trukhanov, and the Head of the UNESCO Desk in Ukraine, Chiara Dezzi Bardeschi. The visit is part of an initiative by the Triennale and MAXXI, supported by Italian Prime Minister's Office, Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation and Ministry of Culture, to set up a Workshop on the Reconstruction of Ukraine." 7 September 2023
And apparently still mayor...
"According to Odesa Mayor Gennadiy Trukhanov, the decision to restore access to Primorsky Boulevard was agreed with the military. This decision will allow Odesa residents and guests to enjoy walking in one of the most beautiful places in the city without any obstacles." 8 October 2023.
Pro-Russia Mayor of Ukraine's 'Crime Capital' Turns His Back on Putin
On a side note, the first of your links is incorrect, as it references FR. Happens when one is hurried. Returns a 404 as you noted in your previous comment about the Armenian report.
We shall agree. That guy. And an interesting tale, given the outside dates in my comment above spanning 2018 until today. Yup. Corrupt and over at least six years, and involved with other Ukrainians. Yup, Free on bail too.
And as to that "pro-Kremlin lawmaker," he's Ukrainian and in the Ukraine even now, a People's Deputy (Member of Parliament). Curious about him?
https://novynskyi.com/en/biography/
Turns out the simplistic view of this extraordinarily tangled web is -- well -- knotted in all sorts of ways.
And meanwhile, and as posted before:
This whole world event centers on money. As noted in comment # 107 (posted to yesterday's thread to another Freeper):War and Theft - the Takeover of Ukraine's Agricultural LandThe links to document the above are there. "The report identifies many prominent investors, including Vanguard Group, Kopernik Global Investors, BNP Asset Management Holding, Goldman Sachs-owned NN Investment Partners Holdings, and Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages Norway's sovereign wealth fund. A number of large US pension funds, foundations, and university endowments are also invested in Ukrainian land through NCH Capital – a US-based private equity fund, which is the fifth largest landholder in the country."
Note that the Z-government is participating in this. "In 2020, Zelenskyy gave in to the IMF's demands and finally repealed the moratorium. 'Agribusiness interests and oligarchs will be the primary beneficiaries of such reform,' said Olena Borodina of the Ukrainian Rural Development Network. 'This will only further marginalise smallholder farmers and risks severing them from their most valuable resource.' But the World Bank could barely contain its excitement, gushing: 'This is, without exaggeration, a historic event.'
The point is that Ukraine is being carved into chunks, Putin taking some, and a lot of Western players taking other chunks with the approval (or at least acquiescence) of Zelensky, as profiteering goes on through many means, large and small.
Lots of players, and at many levels. The "little guy," be he Ukrainian, Russian or American, is losing throughout. And the inverse is also true. The "big guys," Ukrainians, Russians, Americans -- and now we add from above -- Norwegians (recalling that Stoltenberg was prime minister of Norway) and others in Europeans, as well as the cottage industry of monetizing "content" which is promoted daily, all come down to money. Few clean hands in this mess.
This is likely why so many dearly want there to be a "white hat" in this "historic event," in the World Bank's parlance. It seems there really isn't.
As observed and documented: "The whole Ukraine goes for sale - massive profit opportunities being created by the war." Modern Diplomacy (EU). Another of their articles is also informative:
The real issue is not about Ukraine – it is NATO and Russia
107 posted on 10/7/2023, 7:29:04 PM by Worldtraveler once upon a time
Money. It's what's this is all about. Big Ukrainian money. Big Russian money. Big American money. Big European money. And by "big," I mean for the few and well-connected, including Z and P, without a doubt. Not us little folk. For us....
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Referencing: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4187595/posts?page=98#98
Worldtraveler once upon a time take and mine are different.
Money is not what this is all about for the common man in Ukraine. I also choose to support the freedom of Ukraine rather than Putin’s imperialistic invasion and subsequent war crime atrocities.
However, if money is to be considered the priority of focus, maybe this info will be helpful to consider.
In 2014, Ukraine association agreement with the European Union was mainly an economic measure to move away from Putin’s “Eurasian Union project” and instead create a free trade area designed to align economies with EU nations.
Crimea was invaded.
Worldtraveler once upon a time wants to commensurate with the “little guy. Perhaps, let us “remove ‘the log’ in the U.S. eye to see clearly to remove the splinter in the eye of Ukraine.
Perhaps, we need to look at the small farmer.
Bill Gates said in 2012 he was going to “fix” agriculture in conjunction with Monsanto and Syngenta. Seems pretty clear Gates is promoting corporate pesticide GMO agriculture.
Gates is buying up hundreds and thousands of contiguous acres at a time in various states. According to Forbes, two years ago, Gates owned 250,000 acres across multiple states becoming America’s biggest FARM owner. . Why?
Gates took control with mandatory vaccinations, now will he control the food supply...
After years of reports that he was purchasing agricultural land in places like Florida and Washington, The Land Report revealed that Gates, who has a net worth of nearly $121 billion according to Forbes, has built up a massive farmland portfolio spanning 18 states. His largest holdings are in Louisiana (69,071 acres), Arkansas (47,927 acres) and Nebraska (20,588 acres). Additionally, he has a stake in 25,750 acres of transitional land on the west side of Phoenix, Arizona
**I HAVE FOUND NO LINK TO GATES WITH MEAT GROWN FROM ANIMAL CELLS. These following LINKS only continue the subject of regarding control of the food supply.
1. ‘No kill’ meat, grown from animal cells, is now approved for sale in the U.S.
June 21, 2023 12:46 PM ET
NPR
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/06/21/1183484892/no-kill-meat-grown-from-animal-cells-is-now-approved-for-sale-in-the-u-s
2. Lab-Grown Meat Approved for Sale: What You Need to Know
[Cultured meat, grown from real animal cells, will soon be available in restaurants in San Francisco and Washington, D.C.]
SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN
Joanna Thompson
June 30, 2023
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lab-grown-meat-approved-for-sale-what-you-need-to-know/
3. USDA allows lab-grown meat to be sold to US consumers
Jun 22, 2023
The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/21/us-lab-grown-meat-sold-public
“The approval means that the US becomes just the second country in the world, after Singapore, to allow the sale of meat grown from animal cells, a breakthrough touted by the nascent industry as ...”
4. What is lab-grown meat?
GCF Global
https://edu.gcfglobal.org/en/thenow/what-is-labgrown-meat/1/#
“Compared to terms like free range and farm raised, lab grown leaves a lot to the imagination when it comes to how the cultured meat is made, but it’s not as scary as it sounds. Take a cow for example. Scientists will use a cow’s stem cells, the building blocks of muscle and other organs, to begin the process of creating the cultured meat. The cells are placed in petri dishes with amino acids and carbohydrates to help the muscle cells multiply and grow. Once enough muscle fibers have grown, the result is a meat that resembles ground beef.” (Excerpt)
5. VIDEO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u468xY1T8fw
There is NO question that Ukraine is being sold off to large corporate concerns -- demonstrably multinationals, and headlined by hedge funds -- in the same way that there is NO question that these and similar actors are doing quite the same thing in the United States. Oddly the same is occurring in Europe as well, with farmers from the Netherlands to Poland to France becoming more angry with their own governments' allegiance to multi-nationals. For the goals as she well illustrates with sources and citations, this is one portion of a larger tapestry.
This thread is first about Ukraine, and so my focus has been in part to illustrate the corruption of many national and international players angling for their "share" of the spoils of war. Even Zelensky has been implicated, as the sourced mention of the IMF and World Bank illustrate. If all the players are corrupt by degree, then this fits well with the similar streams moving around the world, wherein big money aims to displace the small farm operators with the goals of controlling food production and supply. In the Ukraine. In Europe. In these United States.
This is why your response to the odd tale of Gennadiy Trukhanov is so illustrative. Corrupt from at least 2018 per the BBC, then pro-Putin and then anti-Putin, then arrested for corruption and then bailed out by a Ukrainian MP of still significant wealth, and still as of today holding office as mayor. Money talks. Big money talks around the world, and in Ukraine, because this war-torn nation is part of the larger saga, and, as one source observed, the nation is being "carved into chunks."
Who's carving, given the current government of Ukraine must approve? "Vanguard Group, Kopernik Global Investors, BNP Asset Management Holding, Goldman Sachs-owned NN Investment Partners Holdings, and Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages Norway's sovereign wealth fund. A number of large US pension funds, foundations, and university endowments are also invested in Ukrainian land through NCH Capital – a US-based private equity fund, which is the fifth largest landholder in the country."
Similar things going on here in the states? You bet. Ditto, Europe.
As to some of the names mentioned in connections with Gates and faux-meat, the list is interesting and comprehensive, when looking from those "US" involved names finds them all working the same multinational "magic" in Ukraine:
Monsanto to expand its operation in UkraineIt is understandable that emotions play a large role in reactions to war, but beneath the surface one finds players always angling to profit. Major General Butler was correct. So correct.Has Zelensky sold off Ukraine's agriculture to US multinationals?
Private Sector on the Frontlines of Land Reform to Unlock Ukraine's Investment Potential
Bayer's Troubled Monsanto Megadeal Finally Shows Promise
The hidden hands behind East-West tug of war in Ukraine
"Syngenta employs around 730 people in Ukraine and about 800 in Russia. It said it has no plans to withdraw from Russia." May 2022
Syngenta expects Ukraine harvest to fall by a third
Syngenta - The American Chamber of Commerce in Ukraine
"Dmitry Skornyakov, CEO of HarvEast, one of Ukraine's largest agricultural companies, said: 'We had a big contract with Syngenta ... and Syngenta just stopped supplying Ukraine. We had a pre-paid contract, we paid them and they just did not supply.' 'According to my information, they still supply Russians, why [do] they do this? It's very strange,' he said. A spokesperson for Syngenta said it continues to supply Ukraine, and does so at high risk and without expecting to make a profit. 'The goods we ship are no longer insured against losses,' the spokesperson said."
Hunger games: Ukrainians slam Western agribusinesses for staying in Russia
Agrochemical Producers Not Deterred By Russian/Ukraine Conflict
Syngenta CEO: Ukraine Crisis Calls for Shift Away from Organic Farming
And then, as button to this comment or "word salad," as some like to say:
Bill Gates says 'the scariest thing of all' is Ukraine war because it is a 'distraction' from climate change
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Yep, Once upon a time is not happy when he is ignored! LOL
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