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Update from Ukraine | Ruzzian Tank Convoy Ambushed | Ukraine gained the Ground on the South
Youtube.com ^ | 10-6-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 10/06/2023 6:06:43 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; Allegra; kiryandil; Worldtraveler once upon a time; ransomnote; ...
You are entitled to freedom or thought & expression. But remember in U.S., so are others.

And? What are you trying to say? Because I criticized the Institute For the Study Of War as a pro-Youke propaganda tool staffed by Victoria Nuland's neocon family members, that implies I'm trying to stifle free expression? Really?

That's rich coming from you, the undisputed queen of comment censoring on FR. The proof of your terribly censorious bent speaks for itself and marks you as an anti-Free Speech zealot.

In fact, yesterday, you and your Youkazoid mod deleted one of my comments on one of your Denys the Draft Dodger propaganda threads. That comment broke none of FR's commenting rules but it sure was a direct hit on Team Youke's fantastical tales of Youke "winning."

Stop having commenters' posts removed, and tell that to your mod too, you know, the one with the cutesy Youke flags (but no American one) and Cyrillic Youke crap in their tagline.

If your censorship games don't stop right now, I'm going to Jim about it, and I won't be the only one who does.

101 posted on 10/07/2023 3:58:19 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: Rocco DiPippo

One of her little buddies today ordered us to stay silent or else. When we took anger at that, they had our posts deleted and we had to sign back in.

Working for the Biden regime I would guess.


102 posted on 10/07/2023 4:02:12 PM PDT by dforest
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

You are the one denying freedom of expression just like your runt Zelensky does over in hell hole land.

It is YOU having others free speech removed from these threads not the other way around.

You think because you have a little friendly mod backing you that you can lie like you do with no repercussions. It is disgusting and even worse when you try to play thread police with that high and mighty authoritarian tone.


103 posted on 10/07/2023 4:08:16 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Rocco DiPippo; Allegra; cabojoe; JonPreston; Extremely Extreme Extremist

We deserve some answers and whether or not the mission of Free Republic has changed. Why are globalist propagandists posting actual Communist garbage given free reign here ? Why do death threats from globalists merely get a single post removal, while non-death threat criticisms from Conservatives get suspensions and posts removed en masse ? How is it these same folks are also allowed to wish for mass murder of Russians, Belarussians and vivid descriptions as to how the duly-elected head of Russia should be assassinated allowed to stand ?

What is with these egregious double standards ?


104 posted on 10/07/2023 4:08:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: dforest

Just disgusting. Who is giving these orders on FR ? Why is it allowed ? We deserve answers.


105 posted on 10/07/2023 4:10:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Not odd.


106 posted on 10/07/2023 4:21:29 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Rocco DiPippo
--- "You are entitled to freedom or thought & expression. But remember in U.S., so are others.

Your take and mine are different. The supercilious tone of "but remember in the U.S." is an implication that you don't remember. This is of course incorrect.

To bring things back to an Update from Ukraine | Ukrainian Farmland being sold, one may read "with citations" :

The Stealth Take-over of Ukrainian Agricultural Land

The truth about corporations taking over Ukrainian agricultural landshttps://global.ilmanifesto.it/the-truth-about-corporations-taking-over-ukrainian-agricultural-lands/

Why Does China Own So Much of Ukraine? AEI / WSJ June 30, 2022

ะgricultural companies, farms and agriculture land (farmland) for sale in Ukraine

Sale agricultural lands and farmland for foreigner on Ukrainian laws

Russian Oligarch Seizes 400,000 Acres of Ukrainian Farmland, Owners Say

War and Theft: The Takeover of Ukraine's Agricultural Land

That last citation is interesting as one reads: "The report identifies many prominent investors, including Vanguard Group, Kopernik Global Investors, BNP Asset Management Holding, Goldman Sachs-owned NN Investment Partners Holdings, and Norges Bank Investment Management, which manages Norway's sovereign wealth fund. A number of large US pension funds, foundations, and university endowments are also invested in Ukrainian land through NCH Capital โ€“ a US-based private equity fund, which is the fifth largest landholder in the country."

So you see, while YouTube monetized videos by "content creators" (many located in the United States) have been promoted, these are the chump change compared to the mega "war profiteering."

The big profiteering is being arranged, as above. The big profiteering isn't of interest to so many with passionate voices. But Ukraine is for sale. As is war porn, but on a much larger scale.

"...a 2001 moratorium on the sale of land to foreigners had always represented an obstacle to unrestrained privatisation. As post-Maidan governments turned again to the IMF for financing, aid was conditioned on a series of land reforms that would finally allow foreign corporations to acquire vast tracts of the country's farmland. In 2020, Zelenskyy gave in to the IMF's demands and finally repealed the moratorium. 'Agribusiness interests and oligarchs will be the primary beneficiaries of such reform,' said Olena Borodina of the Ukrainian Rural Development Network. 'This will only further marginalise smallholder farmers and risks severing them from their most valuable resource.' But the World Bank could barely contain its excitement, gushing: 'This is, without exaggeration, a historic event.' Even though the new law isn't set to come into force until next year, US and Western European agrobusinesses have already bought up millions of hectares of Ukraine's farmland โ€” with 10 private companies reportedly controlling most of it."

In "The whole Ukraine goes for sale - massive profit opportunities being created by the war' -- July 17, 2023

Source: https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/07/17/the-whole-ukraine-goes-for-sale-massive-profit-opportunities-being-created-by-the-war/

This was so simple to research. It's amazing that this news is not part of the KaBoom game.

But it sure as heck is part of the Institute For the Study Of War game. Petraeus is part of a big investment conglomerate. More on that in time. But your take on the ISW is spot on. Correct. Yup.

107 posted on 10/07/2023 4:29:04 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Rocco DiPippo
I understand why moderator's names are anonymous, but I think we may be seeing cases of favoritism by by a mod or two. I would suggest that mods have "serial numbers" attached to their posts or gags or suspensions that are visible in the threads that they wield their justice in...i.e. mod#544. That way we the good people of FreeRepublic would not know anyone's name, but could tell if the same mod was being preferential to a certain cause. As it is, a mod can enter a thread, remove posts, then lock the thread and we can never ask them why. They just disappear. Personally I've never had a problem with the moderators, but I do see a problem lately.
108 posted on 10/07/2023 5:11:43 PM PDT by cabojoe ( ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
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To: cabojoe

Or more than just a few. This “Who is the Admin Mod ?” has been a problem since the beginning. Because we don’t know who it is, we don’t know if the person functioning in that position at a given time has an agenda (or may actually be a troll themselves). I remember back during the Willardbot wars of yore (2007-2013), I had openly hostile AMs deleting my posts or issuing threats (even back to the ‘03 CA Recall Election, where I vociferously opposed Ah-nold’s candidacy as a nightmare, for which I was proven right, as I was about Willard the Rat).

Very troubling. It’s like being accosted by a cop, but you can’t see their face and their voice is muffled to avoid ID’ing them. Mods should be labeled openly, and we should be able to challenge their rulings if they are clearly biased or incorrect. Way too many posts have been deleted from posters in good standing, all for doing nothing more than standing up to globalist trolls spamming FR with warmongering propaganda and personal attacks. As I told you the other week, if I made death threats as they have against me, after being here 25 years and posting 22 1/2 years, I’d be zotted without a moment’s hesitation. They get that single post removed, no suspension, no warning, no zot, and they keep on going. What is going on here with this ?


109 posted on 10/07/2023 5:29:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: linMcHlp; Jim Robinson

“You are entitled to freedom or thought & expression. But remember in U.S., so are others”
https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4187595/posts?page=98#98

I made this comment in reference to a statement that resenting my use of ‘Institute For the Study Of War’ as a source for my comment. BTW, Petraeus is also resented if I use as an information source. I consider both as worthy of citing.

Not atypically, such negative reactions to my comment came from my usual critics: Rocco DiPippo, fieldmarshaldj, dforest, cabojoe.


110 posted on 10/07/2023 6:32:08 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Suggestion: Slow down and focus on refining the reports that you make. Some, esp. by Mr. Davydov, could be shortened. Approach the work as a copy editor.

One of your replies, that is not a work by Mr. Davydov, but an example of an article that could be shortened:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4187595/posts?page=99#99

Consider the points in an article, that you believe to be the most important, and just write about those . . . leaving further study by readers, to their exploring more via the URL address link.

Second suggestion: You pretty much know from experience, members of the forum who are dedicated detractors. When they state their opinion about something - other than about you - then perhaps reply as you wish. Otherwise, esp. when they attack, conserve your energy - no response to their work is required.


111 posted on 10/07/2023 7:05:05 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

That’s fair.


112 posted on 10/07/2023 7:48:33 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: dforest; Jim Robinson; Admin Moderator
"You are the one denying freedom of expression just like your runt Zelensky does over in hell hole land."

"It is YOU having others free speech removed from these threads not the other way around."

"You think because you have a little friendly mod backing you that you can lie like you do with no repercussions. It is disgusting and even worse when you try to play thread police with that high and mighty authoritarian tone. "

When your side crosses the line, someone complains, and a post gets pulled, a few hours later, someone accuses UmcRevMom of "censorship" or having her "moderator friends" pull posts. The response for having posts that cross the lines pulled, is to escalate the abuse.

You and others have played that game for months now. If you and the pro-Russia side playing this game don't like how Jim Rob or the Admins moderate, how about you take up with them directly instead of attacking who posted the thread?

I am a guest her like everyone else, including YOU and others I could name. I do no go out of my way to make it personal, then when I get back a little of what I gave, act all innocent and complain about how the other side started it.

I don't run the site, make the rules, or pull posts. When I have had threads and posts pulled, I don't blame others. I realize and accept I made a mistake and try not to make it again. I don't get childish and abusive over it.

I would never think of posting anything that remotely sounded like challenging how this site like that EVER. I followed FR long enough to know better than to post the abuse UMCRevMom gets daily. Quite a few of those dishing it out have been here long enough to know better too.

I'd like to hear what Jim Rob or the Admin mods have to say on this. Because responding to pulled posts like this is challenging who runs the site over they run it. This has gone on for months, just look back through RevMom's threads. It is way past time to address this instead of acting around it.

113 posted on 10/07/2023 8:18:00 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Did you miss a word in the middle of your last sentence which may make the sentence clearer?


114 posted on 10/07/2023 8:41:58 PM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin
Is "past time for the mods to" better?

My meaning is clear enough.

115 posted on 10/07/2023 8:45:53 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Rocco DiPippo
And? What are you trying to say? Because I criticized the Institute For the Study Of War as a pro-Youke propaganda tool staffed by Victoria Nuland's neocon family members, that implies I'm trying to stifle free expression? Really?

Gotta love it when she grants you freedom of thought and expression. ๐Ÿ˜„

116 posted on 10/07/2023 8:47:31 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: linMcHlp; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Widget Jr; Worldtraveler once upon a time

I looked at your link in comment #111. I had read the whole article earlier as posted by Revmom. It was a detailed look at Putin’s birthday and various events on this birthday. Some may remember that a year ago the Kerch Bridge had a segment of roadway removed by an exploding truck which also set fire to a fuel loaded train above on the rail line. I think Russia is still unable to use the rail line for heavy transit but only uses for passenger cars. The explosion happened a few hours after his birthday. So I and I am sure others who have been here for a while were quite interested to know how Putin enjoyed his birthday this year.

Regarding deleted comments and locked threads, I noticed that the day so many comments were removed and the thread eventually locked after at least 70 comments was a very important day for Putin. I believe this was the day Ukraine was having great success in chasing the Russian navy from the Black Sea, and striking the military port Sevastepol (sp?). I imagine the paid trolls and other fanatical Putin supporters felt under a lot of pressure to strike hard at those who supported Ukraine, and if comments were removed, I imagine they said some nasty things in nasty words. The next day everyone was very well behaved in all their comments, and either none or one comment may have been zapped.

Regarding the posts of Mr. Davydov, my impression is they are mostly videos, often about 8 minutes in length. Sometimes a sentence or two about the video is written below the link. I used to look at almost all the video links, some of which were 20 or 30 minutes and some even an hour. Now I have family members dealing with cancer, information that Covid vaccines may have damaged many people’s immune systems, and the public being urged by various media to go get your latest vaccine. I am putting more time into these medical issues with less time to view videos. A REALLY HELPFUL thing would be to list how many minutes (rounded figure would be fine) each video linked runs. The number, like “13 minutes,” could perhaps go right after the figure and number of viewers/followers of the producing person/group. Then I could decide to take a quick look, or come back later for a longer look. At any rate, Revmom thanks for your hard work and providing all this interesting info and lively discussion. I just wish this war would end so we can move our energy on to other serious issues and stop having people die so unnecessarily.


117 posted on 10/07/2023 9:22:49 PM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: Widget Jr

Actually here is the segment that concerned me: “challenging who runs the site over they run it.” I think you may have meant to have the word “how” between over and they. Otherwise I agree with your comment.


118 posted on 10/07/2023 9:28:06 PM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin
"I imagine the paid trolls and other fanatical Putin supporters"

Name names, please. Which FReepers are actively being "paid by Putin" ? Because we know which individuals are actively spamming this website with ANTI-Conservative globalist propaganda. One was posting literal Communist garbage the other day and others citing the most viscerally and ludicrously anti-Conservative "publications" as being reputable websites. How is any of that in line with Free Republic's mission ?

119 posted on 10/07/2023 9:32:51 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
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120 posted on 10/07/2023 9:54:39 PM PDT by cabojoe ( ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
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