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This is a very encouraging read on the changing relationship between the democrat party and its traditionally reliable California Hispanic voter. As first, second and third generation immigrants attempt the ascent to the middle class, they face the same democrat obstacles we all must deal with. VDH sees a dramatic realignment taking place.
1 posted on 09/10/2023 7:29:54 AM PDT by hardspunned
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I watched this last night and thought it interesting. BUT, I have doubts that California will swing back as Victor suggests


2 posted on 09/10/2023 7:32:04 AM PDT by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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VDH sees a dramatic realignment taking place.

This is speculation. As of now, I see no evidence of this actually happening.

3 posted on 09/10/2023 7:34:37 AM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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I haven’t read the article, but if it’s anything like Texas, where the Hispanic vote often goes 40% Republican, it basically ends the chances of the Leftists getting much mileage out of them - and it’s also the reason Texas is still solid red, despite all the claims of the Democrats for the past 20 or so years about flipping the state.

Two caveats - first, most Texan Hispanics who vote have been here for multiple generations, and second, the new waves of migrants are often not Hispanic (the Dems see much more value in diverse voters who are still around 90 Democrat, than Hispanic voters)


4 posted on 09/10/2023 7:34:59 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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5 posted on 09/10/2023 7:36:42 AM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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I am still hoping for “The Big” one to destroy everything along the great fault lines. Nothing less is likely to save KKKalifonia.


7 posted on 09/10/2023 7:44:43 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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I recently watched this video of Peter Frampton in Oakland, CA (1977). I thought, no way a concert crowd could look like that today in California.
8 posted on 09/10/2023 7:45:02 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The Delay Trump’s trial, delay. Elect Trump President. Trump pardons himself. )
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I doubt this too. I think it is wishful thinking. While rank-n-file Hispanics may tend to be ‘conservative’; at the political level they too play the race/ethnic game. i.e. the Hispanic Caucus, LaRaza or whatever they call themselves now. MEChA or many other Latino/Hispanic political groups. Race before anything else

Whites and the West are incredibly naive.


12 posted on 09/10/2023 7:51:04 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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The breakdown of the black community is largely the result of LBJ, Great Society welfare state liberalism, and the poisoned fruit of that evil tree. The Hispanic community needs leaders who will stand up, say to everyone that what the democrats did to blacks was criminal, and that WE WON’T LET YOU DO TO US WHAT YOU DID TO THEM. And then, as an exercise in good faith outreach, they should turn to the black community and say “you are indeed victims and we will gladly join you in the crusade for justice. But only if you point your guns at the real enemy.”


23 posted on 09/10/2023 8:23:59 AM PDT by sphinx
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“This is a very encouraging read”

There is nothing to read.


24 posted on 09/10/2023 8:24:35 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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this.

that’s what us hunkered down CA property holders have been banking on. as a protest, some of us are not selling out. yes we are buying property in red states, but keeping a foothold in CA. that things have gotten so bad, there has to be a turnaround.

we’re basically a one party state since the great RR, and we’re still hanging on and rope-a-doping the CA political mafia in our city onclaves and rural counties. to paraphrase the song:

...and maybe someday when they learn.

the Golden Bear State will return...

Will Return...

WILL RETURN!

(keyboard coda)


26 posted on 09/10/2023 8:34:06 AM PDT by dadfly
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Ping! Out to the Victor Davis Hanson list

YT video of a VHD discussion. Thought provoking and, as you will see in the comments, creating very differing opinions.

Is there actually a chance that the Dems would allow a fair election so that citizens can get their state back?

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27 posted on 09/10/2023 8:42:59 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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VDH is a smart guy, but he has a habit of being WAY to optimistic, e.g. in the 2022 midterms he was convinced of a Republican tsunami just as in 1994 and 2010.


29 posted on 09/10/2023 8:53:30 AM PDT by LuxAerterna
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Good luck

This is historically where VDH shows his neocon innards

That and treating slavery as the original sin

Pity cause he can be bright


30 posted on 09/10/2023 8:55:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (Why so many nevertrumpers with early sign ups and no posting history till now? Zot them PTB)
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Maybe out in the valley, but when you to Stanford or Valley Fair Malls Whites and Hispanics are nary in sight.

I have no idea where all the Whites and Hispanics are shopping these days but, it ain’t there....


37 posted on 09/10/2023 9:37:31 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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Related:

New poll finds California voters resoundingly oppose cash reparations for slavery (L.A. Times)

California residents are adamantly opposed to giving million dollar checks to blacks by a 2-1 margin.

This is part of what will drive them away from the Democrats.

39 posted on 09/10/2023 9:52:09 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President. A conservative who fights and wins..)
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VDH styles himself as an Eee-yore, but in my book he is a Polyanna.

There is no way a regime this corrupt will allow itself to be voted out of office.

44 posted on 09/10/2023 11:37:21 AM PDT by rhinohunter (“Being woke means you’re a loser” — Donald J. Trump)
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A group moving to more conservative is good news, but the idea of what is conservative keeps getting softer.


45 posted on 09/10/2023 11:47:47 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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I spent years working with Latin Americans and anyone who thinks they — especially the males —aren’t naturally conservative has not.


46 posted on 09/10/2023 12:00:03 PM PDT by aculeus (Just Call Him "No Border" Biden)
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bump


55 posted on 09/10/2023 6:49:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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Sorry...can’t agree.Kalifornia will continue to deteriorate to the point where 1% of the population will live in places like Santa Monica and Palo Alto and the rest will live in places that resemble Burkina Faso.


56 posted on 09/11/2023 5:34:21 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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